WWII Nations Mafia - DP1

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@Elminster
I need to die today or tomorrow unless he we hit scum dp1 

11 person is likely 8 / 3 or 8/2/1
Are you still hated in LYLO? Town lost the Office Mafia because a hated player wasn't hated in LYLO, but town didn't know about it and assumed the hated townie was scum. Might want to ask Chris about that.
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Chris just slipped I'm pretty sure 

I asked him did he give fake claims or fake roles. He said word for word 

"He will let them chose "

Then clarified the choice is given dp1

Looks very good for oro

That being said mass claiming is now useless knowing that. 




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I am actually with supa on a mass character claim based on what happened last game, if you all are down. Mafia was largely caught DP1 based off of POE from lots of claims coming out. 
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VOTE COUNT:

Reece101 (1/6) - ILikePie5,
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@Elminster
That being said mass claiming is now useless knowing that. 


Most mods usually give like 1 fake claim for forum mafia, and we just can't treat claims as town locks. Regardless, depending on how many scum there are we can potentially catch one or 2 still. 
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Hated in all circumstances
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@Lunatic
I'm down to do so for this game. Normally against it but with this game, catching them off guard could be a benefit and I do not see how countries could be tied to the roles specifically
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@Lunatic
How many times have you seen Mafia actually lynch a hated townie?
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@Lunatic
And the theme could be obvious in general so lets see what happens. There is a huge limit to fake claims we can catch scum off guard
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@Elminster
Good to know, but disappointing.
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@Greyparrot
How many times have you seen Mafia actually lynch a hated townie?
They usually end up getting lynched by town before mafia can, because hypothetically hated allows for the game to not even go on to LYLO so they are just liabilities or free vig targets. 

Whiteflame was that issue in MCU weapons recently, and we've had a few live mafia games where this was also an issue lately. 
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A mass character claim could work pretty well. I'm not generally into claiming, but Supa is right. It would be pretty difficult to figure out roles from characters.
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@Lunatic
Pointing back to the wording

"He's going to give them one or the other "

How do you interpret that 

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As bluntly as I can be , I think mafia is offline atm
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@Elminster
As bluntly as I can be , I think mafia is offline atm
Why
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@Elminster
Pointing back to the wording

"He's going to give them one or the other "

How do you interpret that 


role or character, meaning they might not even get a character. Meaning a mass claim has even more benefits!
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Or he's waiting for them to decide so all the claims given thus far are not fake claims. So it's either mafia yolo or sincere
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"going to"

As in not currently given 



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@Greyparrot
lets popcorn this. You claimed last, how about you decide who goes next?
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@Elminster
As in not currently given 

Maybe when the game started he didn't remember to do it until you asked him? 
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@Elminster
"He's going to give them one or the other "

How do you interpret that
If he’s referring to me I only give 1 fake character claim or 1 fake role claim
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@Lunatic
I think I reminded him when I messaged him so oro is probably safe 
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Problem here is scum can just claim their real character but that puts them down on it. 
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@ILikePie5
He named you word for word. That's not what I'm talking about. 

He said "going to give"

And no "I gave them"

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I'll draw this out more simply. I messaged him and said 

"Were scum given fake claims or roles"

His response 

"Im going to give them one or the other like pie does"

That's significantly different than

"I gave them one or the other"


It implies they are offline or still discussing. So early claims are likely locks 

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@Elminster
He said "going to give"

And no "I gave them"
I think you’re thinking too hard on this
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I said sop claiming lynch proof is a bad idea 
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Justification
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@Elminster
I said sop claiming lynch proof is a bad idea 
I could’ve sworn u got mad at me in live mafia for sop claiming hated
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@ILikePie5
Problem here is scum can just claim their real character but that puts them down on it. 
You don't think there is a theme split?! In a WW2 mafia game?