Inverse Reality Day Phase 1

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@Elminster
Speed is not the lynch today.  There is plenty of time, and the "case" for speed has been unhelpful.  

We should pressure MisterChris, who has been lurking.  You know as well as I do what scum do DP1, which is hide in the background while town tries to convince other town to lynch town.  

The signal to noise ratio so far in this day phase is higher than it needs to be. 
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Vote for MisterChris.
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This is the basically it word for word 
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Right now, MisterChris is who I want to hear more from.

He has been hiding in the shadows.  It's time to step into the light. 
Why Chris over Warren? Warren has been 10x more inactive than Chris.
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Let me read back on Chris and I may join you.  I'm teetering with speed but the way he finally laid out the full justification would make sense with a character that is vanilla. There is a mild justification for why he's bad and it spins the people around him as bad. 


That lines up with the outline of how I expect luna has set this up 
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Also pie sheep's me a lot as both town and scum in forum.

We have a bromance

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Player - [Character] / [Role] (link to post)

  1. oromagi - [Presumably Jonny] ("My show is Karate Kid/Cobra Kai") / ? (https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/5592/post-links/241261)
  2. elminster - Wicked Witch of the West / ? (https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/5592/post-links/241959) (https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/5592/post-links/241958
  3. mistercrhis
  4. supadudz - Neagan / Miller (https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/5592/post-links/241170
  5. greyparrot - Smeagol / Hider (https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/5592/post-links/241213
  6. drafterman - ("I'm from a movie. If I say the movie it'll be obvious who I am. But I am a "villain") / ? (https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/5592/post-links/241242)
  7. coal
  8. speedrace - Hyenas from Lion King / Vanilla (https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/5592/post-links/241532) (https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/5592/post-links/241730
  9. whiteflame - ("I’m from Police Academy. Fill in the blanks. Thanks for helping scum, guys!") / [obvs] - (https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/5592/post-links/241896
  10. warren42 - ("My character is from Game of Thrones") / ? (https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/5592-inverse-reality-day-phase-1?page=2
  11. ilikepie5 - Magneto / ? (https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/5592/post-links/241345
Unvote.

With town so vulnerable, we've got to think about this more carefully now. 

Pie's point about Speed claiming before we knew the split got me to look back, and Speed hinted literally within the first 10 minof the DP about his role being multiple people... 

It's not beyond Speed to fake claim multiple people as scum. But what I think IS beyond him is soft claiming multiple people within the first 10 mins of DP1, therefore limiting your options severely. 

This was just as true at 461 as it was when you initially VTL'd speed, so nothing changed objectively between then and now.  Or if it has, you haven't pointed it out.   Looks to me like you're getting cold feet about being on a wagon.  

This post also suggests (1) distance between you and the "town";  (2) that you're not confident about the theme because you don't know what to make of Speed and Grayparrot's claim; and (3)  that you're trying to lay some foundation for wanting to avoid claiming this phase because you're afraid you'll claim outside the theme. 

I agree there's been enough claiming, but the intentions behind your comments here do not suggest motivations arising from an uninformed perspective. 


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Why Chris over Warren? Warren has been 10x more inactive than Chris.
Let's not try to walk and chew gum at the same time for the moment.  Read over the posts I have written that mention Chris.  That should clear things up. 

Warren's time may come.  But for the moment, it's Chris's time in the sun.  
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Let's not try to walk and chew gum at the same time for the moment.  Read over the posts I have written that mention Chris.  That should clear things up. 

Warren's time may come.  But for the moment, it's Chris's time in the sun.  
Fine then. Chris then Warren

Unvote VTL Chris
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Low key the theme may just be Characters in Movies vs Characters in TV Shows with each character basically being an asshole and their actions justified to fit the inverse reality stuff.

Supa - Negan - Miller - TV Show (The Walking Dead)***
Oro - ____ - ____ - TV Show (Cobra Kai)
Warren - ____ - ____ - TV Show (Game of Thrones)

Pie - Magneto - ____ - Movie (X-Men)
WF - Lt. Harris - Cop - Movie (Police Academy)
Drafter - ____ - ____ - Movie (???)
GP - Omegol - Hider - Movie (Lord of the Rings)
Speed - Hyenas - Vanilla - Movie (Lion King)
Elm - Wicked Witch - ____ - Movie (Wizard of Oz)

***There’s plans to make a Walking Dead movie

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Whats the justification for killing Chris?
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Well, not much else to lose by additional info today.

Unvote. VTL Chris.
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Whats the justification for killing Chris?
Coal wants to know something from him. I wanna know if he’s from a movie or tv show
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Whats the justification for killing Chris?
Coal wants to know something from him. I wanna know if he’s from a movie or tv show
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Thoughts on post 490
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It's what most of us have been saying all along, but I think it's more than that. Like legitimate theories about bad guys being right/justified rather than just Lunatic's musings.
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Vote Count:

MisterChris- 3/6- Coal, iLikePie5, Drafterman
iLikePie5- 2 /6- Speedrace, oromagi
Elminster- 1 /6- Whiteflame
Drafter- 1 /6- Greyparrot

Not Voting:   Warren42, elminster, supadudz, misterchris


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@Greyparrot
Whats the justification for killing Chris?
We aren't lynching Chris, yet.  Yet.  Though that time may come.

For the moment, a character claim will suffice. 

I should have specified that there has been enough ROLE claiming in my prior post (487). 

There is no reason why Chris would be disinclined to character claim at the moment.  Or at least a soft claim of his character. 
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@oromagi
Are you going to continue to pursue the futile speed lynch, or are you willing to do something productive like pressure Chris? 
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@coal
Do you plan on saying whether you’re from a movie or tv show after Chris does?
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@coal
Right now, MisterChris is who I want to hear more from.

He has been hiding in the shadows.  It's time to step into the light. 

VOTE: MisterChris


So yeah. I've been busy.

But really I'd say I'm not lurking.... I've been posting pretty consistently today I'd say. 
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Are you from a tv show or movie?
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@Elminster
Let me read back on Chris and I may join you. 
Provide me with a status update.  Have you since reviewed the thread, and reached the conclusion that Chris has been lurking?  

Have you further read my response (487) to his most intriguing post (461)?  

From this exercise, have you concluded that you should be pressuring Chris? 

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Do you plan on saying whether you’re from a movie or tv show after Chris does?
I don't have a problem disclosing whether my character appears in a movie or a TV show, though I fail to see any utility in doing so.  No facts so far suggest that the TV/movie distinction matters. 
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Doing bdo atm will fully catch up at work tomorrow and will look at it in detail.  Also raid ina hour 
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I don't have a problem disclosing whether my character appears in a movie or a TV show, though I fail to see any utility in doing so.  No facts so far suggest that the TV/movie distinction matters. 
Humor me afte Chris says it
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This was just as true at 461 as it was when you initially VTL'd speed, so nothing changed objectively between then and now.  Or if it has, you haven't pointed it out.   Looks to me like you're getting cold feet about being on a wagon.  

Right. I literally said in the post that I noticed & processed this after going back to check Pie's claim that Speed claimed long before we knew the split.

Believe it or not I'm not omniscient. 


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I'm from a movie
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@MisterChris
The fact that you were engaged in a debate on this site is noted.  It doesn't change anything about what I said, though. 

Let's stay focused and then we maybe can further assess what to do next.

What is your character?