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I think I'm pretty settled on whiteflame. I am often wrong about reading him and I realize his non committal thing could be both town and scum but he comes off as extremely extremely defensive to me. I also don't think him and drafter are scum together, so I think aiming between them two gives us info. But every post he responds to seems like hes offended he is being read as scum

"how could you blah blah"

It also seems like it's faked and it's emotion baiting for sympathy. Scum tend to try and use emotion as a way to town lock themselves. Poor me , etc and such. I use it all the time. So I think my vote will end up there. Not sure if we will have time to push the people that are literally not playing or how to deal with that. But based just on the current content alone that is where I'm going

Before I vote I want to see pies response to the direct question I sent him. 

Leaning 

Grey / WF (Possibly)
Drafter (x)

I really don't want grey to be scum, so I want time to think on that but WF is certainly the direction to go atm.
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@Elminster
I think I'm pretty settled on whiteflame.
Agreed
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@Elminster
Are mafia together
  • Warren/elm
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@warren42
I would have let you buss me already to satisfy drafters baby rage
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@Lunatic
Pies Response - Can't talk about roles other than your own


I want you to ask pie this and copy paste it

"If I was enabled, would a roleblock still stop me"
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I'm currently studying/doing homework, will catch up & post before I go to bed tonight
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I think this does one or two things

1) Shows us that pie is willing to say how another role would impact your role 
2) if hes not willing

If he says he can't say.  I'm near positive that would mean drafter is lying because drafter would have to ask


"If i enable a vig , would a roleblock stop it"

if pie says yes to him, and "can't tell you" to you. Then we got him
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@MisterChris
allow me to catch you up in one image

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@Elminster
Pies Response - Can't talk about roles other than your own
I want you to ask pie this and copy paste it
"If I was enabled, would a roleblock still stop me"

I asked him, though that is very similar to my other question of "Would the STRENGTHENER role allow other roles to succeed even if that player is killed that night?"

But maybe since I am asking in reference to me personally he would answer? Idk I guess we will see.

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@Elminster
I think I'm pretty settled on whiteflame.
Agreed

Agreed
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@Elminster
If you were hypothetically strengthened a roleblock would not stop you


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@warren42
Sorry, didn't think it would piss you off.
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@Lunatic
attempt to over complicate the strengthener/vig dynamic
No, more than 2 people are confused about this and it stems from the way YOU have presented how your role works.
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@Speedrace
My point is why would he set it up for failure as scum if Mikal is town. If drafter is scum then he wants Mikal to get shot, so why say the plan won't work?
Yes, very good point against whatever lunatic was saying.

This makes me town read speed.

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Whiteflame (2/6) - Speed, Lunatic 
Drafterman (1/6) -  Greyparrot
Elminster (1/6) - Drafter
Bullish (1/6) - Whiteflame

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I am willing to policy lynch someone because their play is anti-town, which is why:

  • drafter's initial pressure on elminster makes total sense from a town perspective
  • I'm fine with being on the whiteflame wagon.

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@Bullish
attempt to over complicate the strengthener/vig dynamic
No, more than 2 people are confused about this and it stems from the way YOU have presented how your role works.

I have literally copied and pasted the messages pie has sent me regarding the mechanics of how my role work, and I think your the only one still confused mate.
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@Lunatic
I have literally copied and pasted the messages pie has sent me regarding the mechanics of how my role work, and I think your the only one still confused mate.
That message only describes how your role works in a small subset of all ways that the night actions can play out, so no, you haven't explained what I wanted to know. I'm over here reading page 13 and people are still confused about how your role works. Idk how you can possibly at that point blame drafter for not knowing how your role works.
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@Bullish
That message only describes how your role works in a small subset of all ways that the night actions can play out, so no, you haven't explained what I wanted to know. I'm over here reading page 13 and people are still confused about how your role works. Idk how you can possibly at that point blame drafter for not knowing how your role works.
Who are these "people", all I see is you fam.

Also I can literally ask the mod any question you have about my role, so ask.
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@Lunatic
Who are these "people", all I see is you fam.
You are making no fucking sense bruh, up to that point drafter was confuse, I was confused, whiteflame was confused, and speed was confused. Your obliviousness of how confusingly you've presented yourself, and your convoluted analysis on drafter's motivations make no sense at all. This reminds me of a game played in early 2020 where you and drafter had extensive in-game bickering and your turned out to be scum.
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@Speedrace
What are your reads
I think drafter, elm, you, and grey are town, in that order.
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@Bullish
You are making no fucking sense bruh, up to that point drafter was confuse, I was confused, whiteflame was confused, and speed was confused. Your obliviousness of how confusingly you've presented yourself, and your convoluted analysis on drafter's motivations make no sense at all. This reminds me of a game played in early 2020 where you and drafter had extensive in-game bickering and your turned out to be scum.
If you are confused, talk to pie. Again I've literally copy and pasted all the mechanics that people have asked me about when I ask pie a question.

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We have a scum slip boiz. Mod confirms that he won't answer questions unless they have to do with your role or your scum mates role. Drafter claims he was told how a roleblocker works, which means pie is bastard modding, or the roleblocker is in a PM with drafter. If you aren't convinced, go ahead and ask the mod if hewould answer how another role works in your private pm. 
Are you trolling? drafter's entire role is about interactions between other people's roles. Can u imagine if pie sent drafter a role PM and was like "you are the strengthener, but I can't tell you what it does cause that's against my modding policy lulz"
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@Bullish
Are you trolling? drafter's entire role is about interactions between other people's roles. Can u imagine if pie sent drafter a role PM and was like "you are the strengthener, but I can't tell you what it does cause that's against my modding policy lulz"
Are you trolling? You make 0 sense. My role isn't all that hard to understand. Poorly designed yes, but not that complicated. Go back to school nerd
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@Speedrace
Both Grey and Chris hopped on that lynch
That's just grey, friday's live mafia he tried to lynch me even though I was the towniest town only second to the confirmed townie.
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@whiteflame
Well, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I didn't say there's nothing to behaviorally read into the posts that have gone up, but enough of this has been focused on their infighting that I think it's entirely appropriate to call much of this a pissing match, and I think it's a little odd that you can claim this is 17 pages of grade A content that should afford me every opportunity to pick out scum. It's not.
pissing matches are the best places to get raw reads because everyone is emotionally compromised. I got 3 reads from this pissing match.
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@Elminster
In the same way you all should have had 0 sympathy for me when I got insta killed the past 2 games. Don't blame you. 
I don't have the context for those games but at least you recognize this.
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@Lunatic
Does your role justification draw on recent events?
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@Bullish
That's just grey, friday's live mafia he tried to lynch me even though I was the towniest town only second to the confirmed townie.
Noted lol
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@Bullish
Does your role justification draw on recent events?
Kinda