Official Vote Count
Speed (3/4) - white, drafter, lunatic
Danielle (1/4) - Speed
Not voting: warren, Danielle,
Crimes Mafia - DP4
Posts
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@Lunatic
(sigh) danielle is no where to be seen, but honestly drafter's point makes sense. And I don't see drafter and warren as scum. Drafter knew he was being tracked every night and let warren just track him? Yeah doubtful. It's probably speed. Just wanted to be safe.
If it's drafter then it would also be warren
Why would anybody just let a tracker and a roleblocker stay alive?
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@Speedrace
If it's drafter then it would also be warren
Yeah. That's quite a gambit. Well played to them if so.
Why would anybody just let a tracker and a roleblocker stay alive?
They are mislynch options, since warren can only target drafter he's not really a threat. Drafter's been a mislynch option from dp1.
Hi just checking in to prove that I can hammer speed and win if I’m scum
But I’m not, so I’ll take my lock clear now
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@Lunatic
(sigh) danielle is no where to be seen,
I don't know how I can be anymore clear about this. I can post -- and I do -- between 9 am and 5 pm during the week. I post intermittently but rarely on nights and weekends which is perfectly fine given the length of 3 day long day phases. The last day phase ended before I could post because it was a few hours long on a Saturday. And last night I was "nowhere to be seen" because the day phase started at 8:07 pm and I can't be on my computer all night long when I am on my computer all day long for work. I have a wife to talk to. A meal to enjoy. Physical therapy to attend for an excruciating injury. So yes LESS THAN 4 HOURS LATER BETWEEN 8 TO MIDNIGHT ON A WORK NIGHT I am "unable to be found." 🙄
Warren is either town or not scum buddies with Speed or else he would have hammered by now. Whiteflame and warren are in my town pile. BRB doing POE.
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@Danielle
Cool, I can lock you in that same boat of town or only scum with speed
Dani please full claim. We’re at MYLO and you’re the only person who hasn’t.
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@Danielle
Dani please full claim. We’re at MYLO and you’re the only person who hasn’t.
+1
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@whiteflame
@warren42
Sure. I am Identity Theft, the Oracle. Essentially I am good at digging for every bit of personal information about someone's true identity, so each night I target someone and if I die my target's real identity, role and affiliation will be revealed in the day phase. This indicated to me that roles will not have anything to do with affiliation which I kept saying (and Oro being a TP cop verified this for me). I probs would have been the only one to find him scum had the mafia not randomly NK'd him.
On NP1 I targeted drafter cuz I thought it was incredibly obvious he was claiming role blocker and didn't know how to read that. On NP2 I was role blocked. On NP3 I targeted Speed.
At this point I'm leaning Speed. This is supposed to be a role madness game and he's the only person to have claimed Vanilla. He was eager to lynch Pie last day phase saying now that a 3x role stealer wouldn't have been sus to him, but for some reason a 2-shot was? Aside from that he has only really focused on drafter this game (meaning if Speed is scum, drafter isn't). Coupled with the obvious of him being role blocked last night and there being no NK, I feel like in a points system he has the most against him.
After analyzing POE, the second scum could literally be among any of the other players (except I heavy read whiteflame town) including Luna, so I'm not sure why people are giving him a pass for whatever reason. But one of the scum seemingly has to be drafterman or Speed just based on how the dynamics of this game has played out. Considering my role suggests role =/= affiliation and I think that's the point of making "scummy sounding things town" and vice versa, I'm leaning drafter being town meaning I'm probs about to cast a vote on Speed.
Any objections?
I just realized it has to be Speed. VTL Speed.
Wait. Unvote.
On Day Phase 1 Lunatic said, "[my] role link makes sense logically, though the phrasing doesn't say you are this because of this, it's more inferred." Speed replied: "That's basically mine, it's just an explanation of my crime and then states my role, but no direct link." AHH it's consistent but the Vanilla claim feels fake/throwing me off.
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@Danielle
Any objections?
None to lynching Speed.
Your claim makes sense, though it'd be easy enough to fake claim Oracle in general, let alone at this stage. As for who Speed's scum partner is, I think it's almost certainly not Draft, since he RB'd him in the last NP. I also don't think there's much chance that it's warren, but that's more of a lean. I agree that it certainly could be Luna, hence I read him as null in the last DP. Right now, I'm almost equally sus of both you and Luna.
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@Danielle
Well, I believe you just hammered, so a bit late to unvote.
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@whiteflame
Explain how Lunatic and I are equal in your sus reads.
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@Danielle
It's honestly that I'm relatively null on both of you, while everyone else leans town. I don't see either of you acting particularly sus, but I also don't see any reason to set either of you into my town pile.
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@whiteflame
On day phase 1 Lunatic was among the people who was okay with mislynching that1user; I wasn't. On day phase 2 I was again hesitant to cast a vote and rush a lynch (a weird thing for me to do as scum). On day phase 3 I didn't post because it was a few hour day phase over the weekend. Lunatic helped mislynch Pie, I didn't.
Then only one point you could give Luna is that he claimed before me. Nobody asked for my claim until just now indicating that up until this point you behaviorally read me town over Luna. Also note that in the likelihood of roles in this game, you have mine which makes sense as it is a town counter to balance a third party cop + lack of investigative roles (we only have one: tracker, assuming warren is town). And you have Luna's which is a day time role that actually balances YOUR previous day time role. So as a balance, knowing you were town then I could see Luna having that role as town.
So I just can't see Luna and I being "equally sus" based on our role claims + behavior + contribution to the game thus far.
I have a feeling scum might be Speedrace and Lunatic. I refuse to let Speed win as scum after the evidence (of the role block from last night) though.
It may be too late anyway. YOLO (or twice if you replace in lol). VTL Speed.
Edit: I could see Luna having that role as scum* to balance your previous town day time role.
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@Danielle
All good reasoning (though I was also willing to consider lynching That1User - we had no way to know whether it was a mislynch, and I was also on the Pie lynch), but I have too little information on you to make adequate comparisons. I don't think that the lack of attention paid to you up to this point makes you less likely to be scum, but I do think that Luna has done more to expose reasonable suspicions. That doesn't mean I'm willing to eliminate you from my POE, if only because I lack sufficient information to make a call on you.
To clarify, however, I'd probably lynch Lunatic before you.
It could be drafterman and Lunatic 🤔 They are both on Speed atm.
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@whiteflame
I'm surprised the LSD = watcher. I assumed cocaine = watcher. I thought pot was gonna be doc. It IS medicinal.
I assume cocaine would be some sort of motivator allowing me to do double actions. We'll see tonight.
LSD makes sense as watcher: it makes you see things.
Maf hasn't come forward shouting about how the game is over.
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@Danielle
Doc would have made sense for weed. Watcher makes some sense for LSD, enough that I'm not finding that terribly odd. And yeah, I suspect cocaine maybe a motivator.
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@drafterman
Maf hasn't come forward shouting about how the game is over.
A good sign, though it was pretty clear that Speed is scum.
LOL maf is very smart
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@Danielle
At this point I'm leaning Speed. This is supposed to be a role madness game and he's the only person to have claimed Vanilla. He was eager to lynch Pie last day phase saying now that a 3x role stealer wouldn't have been sus to him, but for some reason a 2-shot was? Aside from that he has only really focused on drafter this game (meaning if Speed is scum, drafter isn't). Coupled with the obvious of him being role blocked last night and there being no NK, I feel like in a points system he has the most against him.
We literally had this exact situation in Bullish's last game and he had THREE vanillas :|