Anime Waifus Mafia DP2

Supa told you that you got redirected?

Post #5

It's not a "fuck you." You press for claims when you have nothing else to go on or nothing else to do. Do you really think we have no actionable information?

I see Water's claim and I don't see that it exonerate's Speed. Speed's entire defense was:

"Also mafia can't direct someone "off" of someone. If they redirected you, they wouldn't have known you were targeting me"

Which is undercut by Water choosing do redirect exactly because he suspected that Pie would target Speed.

Did Water directed Pie away from Speed because water believes Pie to be scum and Speed to be town, or did Water do it because he's scum buddies with Speed and suspected Pie of being an investigative role?

I think it's clear that among this group we have a high likelihood of getting scum.

So explain to me why were aren't prying into that and instead wasting times with this popcorn claim bs which certainly didn't help the last time we tried it.

This is OGI but speed was VERY adamant in live mafia on Friday night that dreamers work exactly like how he's describing, when I've actually never seen the version he's claiming. It makes me townread him

Yeah that's my point, I didn't think people were told that usually, so I'm asking him to confirm

What role(s) did you dream for whiteflame?

2/3 would be good

1) We are prying into Water's claim regarding the redirect, hence the votes to get Water to full claim. He hasn't responded, so I don't understand the point of targeting Speed now beyond simply challenging his understanding of one or two roles. He clearly didn't fully understand how a Bus Driver would work at first, and quite honestly, I've never dealt with a Redirector before myself, so I wouldn't be surprised if this was Speed's first time encountering it. Maybe that's sus, but I can't decide whether to be suspicious of Speed or Water at this stage without getting more information.

2) If this is the sole basis for pushing a lynch on Speed, it's pretty weak. They almost certainly are not scum partners because there wouldn't have been a disagreement in their stories if that was true. That would be incredibly sloppy scum play from Speed. The first scenario you provided sounds a hell of a lot more likely because Pie was consistently on Speed for a lynch in DP1 and led the charge throughout it. He would have to have assumed that Pie was either scum or vig, but even if neither of those were true, the reads in DP1 were thin at best. He made do with the information he had, and this was one of the most prominent pieces of information that round.

3) We have actionable information. That doesn't mean we could not use more. You keep dismissing the importance of character claims (pointing out one instance where a focus on character claims failed to result in a town victory is pretty weak reasoning - the information isn't what cost us that game), but treat a lapse in understanding of a rarely used role as sufficiently suspicious to pursue a lynch?

4) In general, your whole argument is for why you're not claiming doesn't make sense to me. You don't think character claims do anything, but despite their pointlessness, you'd sooner be lynched than provide your own. Maybe you think your particular character claim would be too obvious. Maybe you think character claims are only useful to mafia. Maybe you're just standing on principle and don't want to engage in what you see as a pointless practice. It's probably the last of those based on what you've been saying so far, but I wouldn't be surprised to see that position change in later DPs when it becomes safer to make a plausible fake claim. Alternatively, maybe you'll just keep holding out and claiming that there's always something more interesting to focus on. Whatever the reason, I'm just incredulous of your argument that these are simultaneously pointless and that keeping yours to yourself is entirely worth being lynched over. 

I checked with Supa. He confirmed that he's telling everyone if their night actions are being redirected and to whom, so that does make sense in this game.

Lol precisely, I was wondering if anyone would pick up on that

Not gonna say that

Who do y'all want to pressure and if you don't know, can y'all pressure That1 with me

Dream me if you think I'm scum, already character claimed

If you role claim now, then I can see if you're telling the truth

I'm Asuna from Sword Art Online, I'm not a doctor, and I win with town.

Gotcha

lucoa from ms. kobayashi's dragon maid

I love ice cream

my justification is also pretty bad. since lucoa is extremely seductive i'm a redirect? i have no idea how that works out either.

Got it. 

Let's get another character claim.

Yeah, that's a weird one. It's also one of the series I'm least familiar with, though I am familiar with the character.

I could be wrong, but I am more trusting of WP due getting the character's name wrong. For fake claims, I would expect the name to be done right and adhere to the research.

Gotcha

Be active

Much as I'm unfamiliar with the series, I do believe that's the right name. She's referred to as Lucoa, though her actual name is Quetzalcoatl. It's more the fact that he did the redirect at all, and that he was specifically aiming to redirect from someone he expected to target Speed (who I also see as town), that has me seeing him as town. Would be a strange move for scum. As a side note, the fact that you're Asuna makes me read you slightly as town as well, though that's largely because I expected her to be here.

I think WP is town simply because he revealed that he was the redirector. I have no idea why he'd do that as scum