The Stand Mafia DP3

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Wf, Chris, Supa as the scum team. Calling it now.
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Fine. You wanted it, you'll get it.

“I'll leave tomorrow, in that 4-wheel drive of mine. North to Wyoming, then due west. I'll be cold. I'll be lonely. My bowels will not work properly. But also... I will be clever.”

I'm Judge Farris. I'm part of Free Zone, trusted and respected by the Committee. Since I'm old and wise, I can seemingly see all. Normally, I'd have covered that with Role Cop, but since that's apparently a scum claim now, I'll give the real one: I'm the goddamn Seer. I know who mafia is, and now they know who I am. Everyone knows.

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How would that make it certain? Wf claims the results were manipulated. If you don't believe me, you won't believe the cop.

We have to vote today, so it's me or whiteflame

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@MisterChris
Woof

If there's no real cop, that's bad modding and we blame the loss on Lunatic. If there is a real cop, the only scenario is that their results were manipulated. But why would mafia frame whiteflame of all people?

I guess framing is possible but still it makes very little sense
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@whiteflame
Lol. You're not the seer. If you were you wouldn't have helped lynch Elminster. If you were seer you'd have lied about being seer.
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@Speedrace
OK. But you miss my point, why not have an extra layer of certainty?
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No you're not lol. We had a soldier, a soldier and a seer in the same game makes no sense whatsoever. 

Plus if you are you just threw the game because mafia can guess the seer and win the game
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@drafterman
How would that make it certain? Wf claims the results were manipulated. If you don't believe me, you won't believe the cop.

We have to vote today, so it's me or whiteflame
How would it not introduce an extra level of security? Have you even asked for a character claim from this cop or are you taking everything they say on face value?
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@drafterman
OK. But you miss my point, why not have an extra layer of certainty?
Woof

I think there is a certain point in mafia where you are too paranoid, and I think this is crossing that threshold
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@drafterman
The lynch on Elm was practically guaranteed after you outed him. I gave hints where I could of who the mafia is without overplaying my hand, but I couldn't stop that lynch. 
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@drafterman
Wf, Chris, Supa as the scum team. Calling it now.
Woof, not sure about Supa but I 100% agree on Chris
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@Speedrace
Yes, and if you'd have lynched me, that would have also thrown the game to mafia, so it's a lose-lose.
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@whiteflame
Woof, if you're town then we have already lost. Therefore we have absolutely no reason to lynch you right now
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Woof, need some sensible people to vote WF please
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Yikes. That's not good. If Whiteflame is outed as Seer town loses no matter what. Whiteflame should've kept it to himself and kept arguing against his lynch... but that probably wouldn't have done it much good. At least we know I was right to suspect the COP. 
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Anyway, VOTE WHITEFLAME.

As Speed says, doesn't matter much at this point unless he's lying. 

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Imagine outing as seer but not outing the maf.
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Imagine outing as seer but not outing the maf.
Woof, I'm deadddd
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True dat. Whiteflame, what were the mafia?
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First off I already told ya'll I don't usually go online at night! I post at like 9am every weekday. I just so happened to sign on now cuz my wife is watching a really boring show. 

What exactly is a Seer? I just looked it up on three sites and it says it has something to do with Warewolf games. 
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And when there are enough outsiders together in one place, a mystic osmosis takes place and you're inside.

Whiteflame- 3/4- Drafterman, speedrace, misterchris
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@Danielle
Woof, seer's are told who the mafia are, but at the end of the game mafia can guess who the Seer is and if they're right, they win
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@MisterChris
Not that it matters much at this stage, but Supa, Danielle and Ragnar.
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Imagine outing as seer but not outing the maf.

That's what I was trying to figure out per context clues about the role. If the Seer knows everybody's role why doesn't he just out the maf? Sounds like a really weird fake claim. You'd think scum would have had at least one claim ready to give upon pressure. 
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@Danielle
Apparently he knows all mafia, but can't reveal that directly or the mafia would know his identity. 

"You are the SEER. You know who all the Mafia are. However, when the last Mafia member is killed, they will be given the option of guessing who the SEER is/was. If they guess correctly, the Mafia wins. When you die, you will appear as a Vanilla."
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Lol ok whiteflame you suck vtl whiteflame 
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Woof

Would rather hurry this DP so I can finish studying lol
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@Lunatic
Should be the hammer.
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I am very pleased at the pace of this game. 
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@whiteflame
ah so my suspicion on Danielle was well-placed although very unevidenced...