is it just me or is debate activity slower

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like yeah there's a lot of forum stuff but there's not a lot of debates. RM left and Intel seems to be just chugging along for some reason. IDK if it has to do with Oromagi's lost but there's been a lot less debates I feel. I guess it gets weird when the number 1 on leaderboard loses.
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nah, I just think people are enjoying their Turkey Break with their families. Has little to do with Oromagi losing
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Chris is probably right. Ppl are doing stuff with their fams, no time for debates rn
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@seldiora
Oro's loss was a huge upset, but life goes on. I'm sure after Thanksgiving ppl are gonna be right back at the eachothers throats.
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@Sum1hugme
Oro's loss was a huge upset, but life goes on.
How empty your life must be...
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@MgtowDemon
What are you talking about?
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@MgtowDemon
Why are you being such a bitch?
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Why are you being such a bitch?
Calm down, child.
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I'm genuinely curious as why you're being such a bitch. It's a rough time in the world and you're projecting some serious toxin for what? I'm asking because I'm sick of seeing you be such a rude ass. Why dude?
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He's just a troll man
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He's just a troll man
Then block me. No one is stopping you.
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@MgtowDemon
Thanks but no thanks. Maybe you're misinterpreting my tone? I'm not upset I'm asking you a question I'll try putting in a more digestible form for you. Why are you so desperate to be unpleasant?
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That's not how I do things. Get over yourself 
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Imagine thinking that someone else's loss on a debate website, of which hardly anyone knows/cares about, is a "huge upset", and that emotional maturity and stoicism is required to deal with it because "life goes on". You'd think, that based on this emotional reaction, that someone had died or lost their job. 

Also imagine making a prediction that "I'm sure after Thanksgiving ppl are gonna be right back at the eachothers throats," and then forcing that prediction to be incorrect by being at someone else's throat before the predicted date.

It is truly astounding how little conception of real life these children have.
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@MgtowDemon
Thanks for the diagnosis doc. Really insightful. You're obviously a troll dude.
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@MgtowDemon
Also, you instigated this conversation.
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@MgtowDemon
Perhaps you should go and see just how difficult it is to beat Oromagi. It's a big achievement.
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@seldiora
It's easy to attain a 100% win record, if you vet your debates, are selective about your opponent, and you get all your friends to vote on your debates (seeing that friends, generally, would rather abstain than vote against you). 

Consider, as a comparison, Dart's predecessor: Debate.org.

Mikal, bluesteel, Roy Latham, Kleptin, Subutai etc. are seated comfortably at the top of the debate.org leaderboard, all battling many other strong debaters, including themselves. Hell, even the front page of the debate.org leaderboard has imposing debaters that would rival Oromagi. I doubt Oromagi could beat any of the top 5.

The only ones retained from there are: Danielle (certainly not as strong as her rating indicated, as she often lost to the very best debaters, but she definitely deserves to be on the front page), bsh1 (who has recently left Dart. Also had various voting cliques on Debate.org, although, like Danielle was certainly strong), tejretics (doesn't appear to be much here anymore), thett3 (similar case to tejretics), Wylted (perm banned. Never had a stellar record but certainly argued some ridiculous positions, just to see if he could win), Whiteflame (is arguably the best debater on this website, and certainly the best voter), Ragnar (mostly noob-sniped to a perfect record) and Zaradi (doesn't appear to be active here, anymore).

In short, Dart's debater pool is significantly weaker that other websites'.  It is also smaller, so voter manipulation is far easier to engage in.

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there's no vote manipulation though. Nobody knows Fruit; everyone knows Oromagi.
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@seldiora
there's no vote manipulation though.
You're adorable.

Nobody knows Fruit; everyone knows Oromagi.
I don't know who this "Fruit" is.


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Nobody knows Fruit; everyone knows Oromagi.
I don't know who this "Fruit" is.
I guess this hammers the point home lol.

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I guess this hammers the point home lol.
Nobody understands the point being made lol.

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@MgtowDemon
Nobody understands the point being made lol.
False.

Fruit - Short for Fruit_Inspector, the person who defeated Oro in this debate.

Had Oro employed vote manipulation, debate vetting, and/or any of the other tactics that you suggested he did, he would not have lost that debate. This is the point that Seldiora is making.

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False.

Fruit - Short for Fruit_Inspector, the person who defeated Oro in this debate.

Had Oro employed vote manipulation, debate vetting, and/or any of the other tactics that you suggested he did, he would not have lost that debate. This is the point that Seldiora is making.
It's funny that a nobody like you would understand, hence proving my point.

Run along now.
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@MgtowDemon
Most of Ragnar's debates are on DDO where you say the problem is reduced. Not to mention BladeofTruth managed to win 99 debates in a row just like Oromagi. On DART the mod team may be smaller but the amount of debates are also less. If I purposefully vote in biased favor mods would very easily notice and delete the votes. 
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@seldiora
Most of Ragnar's debates are on DDO where you say the problem is reduced.
True. He instead noobsnipped and didn't really need voter manipulation, because he crushed people.

Not to mention BladeofTruth managed to win 99 debates in a row just like Oromagi.
Yes. He did something similar to Ragnar.

On DART the mod team may be smaller but the amount of debates are also less. If I purposefully vote in biased favor mods would very easily notice and delete the votes. 
This is difficult when people like MissChris, speedrace and others are bother moderators and part of this group. We've already seen MissChris acting inappropriately for a mod, and no one batted an eyelid.

In any case, Oromagi would never be able to beat the top 5 from DDO (Mikal, bluesteel, Roy Latham, Subutai and Kleptin), and anyone else from DDO's front page would be a significant challenge for him. This website is significantly weaker, in terms of debaters, so being the king of a smaller hill is less impressive.


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@MgtowDemon
fair enough about Oromagi. As for Chris I think he was just angry. Another user noted that his language is strong. You come off as condescending no offense
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It's funny that a nobody like you would understand, hence proving my point.
I'm a nobody?

ahahahahahahah

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Good one. You'd make a very fine third-rate comedian, Wylts.
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@MgtowDemon
Silly pot, do you not realize the hypocrisy occurs when you call this fine kettle black?

Sorry, did I strike a nerve in your supremacy complex?