Paranoia Mafia

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@Elminster

I agree with you on Speed, User and white being the best lynches if we decide to lynch. I disagree with Speed when he said that1user had no reason to fake claim vanilla given all the chatter over vanillas. If that1 is scum, then vanilla would be a perfect claim given all the confusion and knowing town has vanillas.

I could see why people would be hesitant to lynch Speed and normally I would be to, but in this game I feel like he's more dangerous as scum than he is useful as town (especially as vanilla) if that makes sense, so I'm open to him or that1user. Usually I'd rather NL than mislynch but neither one of them give me warm fuzzy town vibes.

As for whiteflame I just don't see any utility in scum refusing to claim at this point when every other role is out, but of course I'll lynch him if he refuses to reveal. He says he'd reveal DP2 though so I don't see the point in pressuring him but we can. I'm about to sign off for a few hours.

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11.25.2020 09:43PM

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@Danielle

wf is new ish

i thin waiting to dp2 gives him more outs to claim

#513

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11.25.2020 09:45PM

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Speed is still the most suspect to me. I don't have a strong bead on That1user, and though I'm not convinced by Croc's claim, it at least makes some sense in a game themed around paranoia.

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11.25.2020 09:51PM

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@Elminster

i think locking people into roles is still the best idea and then decide a lynch or vtnl

+1

This game is likely going to come down to roles because paranoia renders behavioral reads almost useless

All the roles that have been claimed at least relate somewhat to paranoia.

#515

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@Elminster

whiteflame can claim anything at this point - any non visiting role or vanilla seems safe. I just feel like as scum that would be completely stupid to do to paint a target on yourself. Everyone's gonna pressure him DP2. It seems bat shit or like something a complete n00b mafioso would do when panicking which whiteflame is not. However I don't mind pressuring/lynching him if he refuses which is why my vote's on him. Signing off for a bit.

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11.25.2020 10:04PM

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@whiteflame

Speed is still the most suspect to me.

Why?

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11.25.2020 10:15PM

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@Speedrace

I find your claim as vanilla to be pretty convenient after having pushed for the mass claim. It might be real, but whether it’s out of sheer paranoia or reasonable distrust, I’d say that if your goal was to unveil as many town roles as possible while giving nothing away, you were certainly successful.

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11.25.2020 10:17PM

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@whiteflame

I find your claim as vanilla to be pretty convenient after having pushed for the mass claim. It might be real, but whether it’s out of sheer paranoia or reasonable distrust, I’d say that if your goal was to unveil as many town roles as possible while giving nothing away, you were certainly successful.

Even though, besides Elminster, not a single role was claimed because of my push to mass claim? :|

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11.25.2020 10:17PM

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Actually Elminster claimed before I said to mass claim so I'm literally the only one who followed it lol

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11.25.2020 10:19PM

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@Speedrace

People did choose to claim for separate reasons, but you achieved the aim of the mass claim even if the effort itself wasn’t the reason for achieving it.

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11.25.2020 10:22PM

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@whiteflame

People did choose to claim for separate reasons, but you achieved the aim of the mass claim even if the effort itself wasn’t the reason for achieving it.

And I'm scum just because I claimed vanilla? Even though 3 other people claimed it as well? What?

#522

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11.25.2020 10:25PM

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@Speedrace

It’s the combination of that with the push for the mass claim. To some degree, That1User is similarly suspicious to me, though this being the first time I’ve played with him, I’m less certain what to think.

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11.25.2020 10:26PM

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@whiteflame

Welp. Makes more sense coming from you than Mikal I suppose

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11.25.2020 10:27PM

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@Speedrace

As for Lunatic and Elm, both of them have, at least behaviorally, alleviated some suspicion.

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11.25.2020 10:29PM

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@Speedrace

Who are your scum reads?

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11.25.2020 10:35PM

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@ILikePie5

Elminster - null

ILikePie5 - town

Whiteflame - null

Lunatic - lean town but not completely sure

That1User - null

SupaDudz - null, mason and cop?? Dunno about that

Crocodile - hard town

Danielle - null

GreyParrot - hard town

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11.25.2020 11:22PM

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@Speedrace

How croc hard town?

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11.25.2020 11:23PM

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@Lunatic

How croc hard town?

Because Psychiatrist definitely induces paranoia plus I don't see Croc fake claiming Psychiatrist

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11.25.2020 11:25PM

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@Speedrace

What about scum partner giving fake claim?

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11.25.2020 11:30PM

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@Lunatic

What about scum partner giving fake claim?

It's possible but I see no reason to scum read him for now. If we get behavioral reads or night actions on him later but for now I don't think we need to focus on him

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11.25.2020 11:35PM

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Croc's giving bad vibes, activity doesn't feel similar, contribution lacking from last game, the claim feeling fishy. Idk.

#532

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11.25.2020 11:46PM

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@Lunatic

The role definitely fits, but Croc's pretty behaviorally sus. I'm largely split between Speed, Croc and That1User for votes this DP.

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11.25.2020 11:47PM

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Let's let mafia make things easier and POE for us, VNTL dp1.

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11.25.2020 11:59PM

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Fine with me

VTNL

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Vote Count

Speed - 1/6 - Supa

Whiteflame - 3/6 - ILikePie5, Elminster, Danielle

VTNL - 3/6 - That1User, Lunatic, Speed

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@Lunatic

Normally there is no benefit to vtnl, but this is a very weird game with a strange mechanic which will be revealed tomorrow whether I die or not. Safe to say this paranoia mechanic is very detrimental to the scum team.

VTNL

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