At What Point Does the "Racism" Boogeyman Go Away?

So, it has been seeming like any disparities among races are always just tossed up to "White Racism" or "Systemic Racism", and I was simply wondering, at what point do you consider minorities to be people who are responsible for their own actions?

Are we assuming that all cultures and peoples are the same and that any disparity at all is because of racism? How much disparity in SAT scores and household wealth needs to be closed before you blame individuals for making bad choices like having kids out of wedlock?

And how does this apply to disparities in which White people are lower in achievement? Asians from many cultures and countries have the highest IQ scores and earn much higher incomes than White people.

Black women are 3x more likely to die during childbirth than White women, but Hispanics are 13% less likely to die than White people. Are White women making bad health decisions and Black women are suffering from this unspeakable racism on the part of White doctors, and it is of no fault of their own?

Maybe telling people that all of their problems are because the White man is keeping people down is causing them to act irrationally. Maybe they don't try as hard to finish high school, because 'what is the point'? The evil White man will keep you from succeeding anyway.

It seems to me that removing personal agency from people is only going to cause more harm than good. You can fight the occasional racism when you find it, but it by no means is rampant like lefties try to make it out to be. 

when attended by white physicians, Black newborns experienced 430 more deaths per 100,000 births than white newborns. But when cared for by a Black physician, the excess deaths dropped to 173 per 100,000 above that of white newborns

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/black-newborn-baby-survival-doctor-race-mortality-rate-disparity

The data suggests that ~42% of the observed difference between white and black infant mortality is being caused by racism. It's time for those babies to shut up and start taking responsibility!

There is no point. "Racism" is a product of having differing non-European groups involved with other racial groups. Even in their homelands (such as Kenya), Africans still complain of other Kenyans racially discriminating against them. In Singapore, Chinese have to be legally forbidden from spreading Chinese supremacist mantra, in order to maintain the peace.

It's fascinating that in some leftist's minds they can house this complete contradiction: cultural differences should be celebrated but cultural differences don't matter. This isn't even to delve into the fact that some cultures are objectively abhorrent, such as some parts of the extreme Islamic world wherein women are stoned to death for being raped (for dishonoring the family), or in parts of Uganda where they believe witchcraft is a real thing https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-02/witchcraft-child-sacrifice-uganda-victims/11248026 . 

Yes, there doesn't seem to be an end for the degeneracy and awful decisions the government is willing to tolerate. Kind in mind that this issue is exacerbated by the tax-payer having to prop these irresponsible people up.

Learned helplessness is a pathology.

If anything, Africans and Hispanics receive, overall, favorable handouts from the government (for example, getting into universities with lower SAT scores through affirmative action) https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/12/17/affirmative-action/

...a recent PNAS paper titled “Physician–patient racial concordance and disparities in birthing mortality for newborns”...

The authors use the State of Florida’s Agency for Healthcare Administration data on births between 1992 and 2015. This data, notably, contains details about the race of patients but not of doctors. This seems like a pretty big deal! If the paper is meant to test the effect of racial concordance, I’d hope the authors knew what the race of the doctor was.

Here’s how the authors got around this problem: They used the doctors’ names and searched them up on various health websites like vitals.com and healthgrades.com. We can be pretty sure these really are the doctors in the dataset, because the researchers matched doctors’ license numbers, and affiliations. They then downloaded photos of every doctor. Here’s where bias may start to creep in: of the 9,992 doctors in their sample, only 8,045 had readily available photos....

The researchers assume physician-patient pairing is quasi-randomized — or that which doctors patients get are not “chosen”, but dictated by the doctor who happens to be on call. Is this justified? The authors don’t get into it. It could be the case, for example, that wealthier black mothers choose black doctors at higher rates — and their wealth is a predictor of mortality in and of itself. 

Mortality of infants is linked to their attending physician. Medicine is a team sport, and there are teams of nurses, other physicians, and administrators who all play a role in the outcome of a patient. Do we have good evidence that an individual physician has such an outsize impact on their team?

Do we trust that the physician listed is even the person with primary responsibility for patient care? One doctor in Vinay’s thread says that “one hospital where I worked all infants had the medical director listed. Another it was the admitting doc. Could be paediatrician after discharge.” In other words, we have no guarantee that the patient of record the authors used was even the person who looked after the birth.

Finally, the biggest critique: are there systemic differences in which doctors look after infants with higher mortality risk? Is it the case, for example, that ICU pediatricians are disproportionately white? In this case, we’d expect white doctors to on average have higher mortality, because they’re on average looking at tougher cases. Selection bias matters!

Additionally, I’d like the point out that the researchers didn’t use their data to look at disparities across other racial groups. As far as I can tell, the only thing they looked at was black patients and black infants. Suppose we found that black infants had worse outcomes with middle eastern or east asian doctors as well? Would we be as quick as to leap towards a racial bias narrative? What if we found that white infants had worse outcomes when treated by south asian doctors?

The data suggests that ~42% of the observed difference between white and black infant mortality is being caused by racism. It's time for those babies to shut up and start taking responsibility!

I see... It appears George Wallace was right! "Segregation today, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever!"

Black women are 3x more likely to die during childbirth than White women, but Hispanics are 13% less likely to die than White people. Are White women making bad health decisions and Black women are suffering from this unspeakable racism on the part of White doctors, and it is of no fault of their own?

Obviously other factors can be in play and the situation merits further investigation, but who has time for that?

Causation is much more difficult to prove then causation, but I can't think of a better explanation for the observed correlation than racism. Well, someone else can do the work because I'm too lazy to find out.

BTW the cited study was https://www.pnas.org/content/117/35/21194 It's behind a paywall. Anyone got the pirated version?

So, it has been seeming like any disparities among races are always just tossed up to "White Racism" or "Systemic Racism", and I was simply wondering, at what point do you consider minorities to be people who are responsible for their own actions?

Are we assuming that all cultures and peoples are the same and that any disparity at all is because of racism? How much disparity in SAT scores and household wealth needs to be closed before you blame individuals for making bad choices like having kids out of wedlock?

And how does this apply to disparities in which White people are lower in achievement? Asians from many cultures and countries have the highest IQ scores and earn much higher incomes than White people.

Black women are 3x more likely to die during childbirth than White women, but Hispanics are 13% less likely to die than White people. Are White women making bad health decisions and Black women are suffering from this unspeakable racism on the part of White doctors, and it is of no fault of their own?

Maybe telling people that all of their problems are because the White man is keeping people down is causing them to act irrationally. Maybe they don't try as hard to finish high school, because 'what is the point'? The evil White man will keep you from succeeding anyway.

It seems to me that removing personal agency from people is only going to cause more harm than good. You can fight the occasional racism when you find it, but it by no means is rampant like lefties try to make it out to be. 

So lefties in particular, let me in on this: At what point do you blame people over a boogeyman?

Death is a pretty cool dude.

I firmly believe that black people are discriminated against in the courts...

At What Point Does the "Racism" Boogeyman Go Away?