The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Mafia DP1

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@Ayyantu
I don't know. There are only four pages so far, and less than a day has passed. Unless there's something obviously scummy, it will take me a while before I start developing useful reads.
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Note to self: Sir defends Water without wanting to call him town.
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@Ayyantu
Sir always plays both sides of the fence
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I have no reads so far
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I've got a read on anyone who posted.
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@Ayyantu
It's within town's best interest to avoid mislynches. Thus, I will defend someone from what I perceive as bad logic even if I don't townread them.
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@Speedrace
Sir always plays both sides of the fence
I suppose I do.
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@Ayyantu
Why is Water scum to you though? What is indictive of him being scum that you warrant you pushing a lynch?
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@SirAnonymous
He's never played on DART. He's by all accounts a noob and this seems like noob scum behavior
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@Vader
Maybe. He seems a little more like a noob version of Intelligence to me (no offense to Intelligence).
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@SirAnonymous
I don't see it. If he had prior experience and is now hunting down scum off little evidence while barely playing seems like such a noob scum to me?
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@Vader
You could be right. I'll have to think about it.
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@Ayyantu
About how many games did you play back when you played forum mafia?
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What are your reads
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@Vader
When have you seen noob scum behave like me?
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@Ayyantu
A scums behavior is to lead mislynches and not get lynched to win with town. You are targeting Water over a very satirical post and are scum reading. You are also role hunting, which is a scummy thing to do. You are making it so obvious that it is hard to read you as town
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@Vader
It's true that Ayyantu voted for Water over a "satirical post" and threw out the idea of a mass claim, but #1 with little to go on that "satirical" post was a place to start - especially since noob scum tend to slip with "jokes" like that, and #2 it could have been a reaction test. In fact it probably was considering Ayyantu immediately dropped the idea of a mass claim (after saying he wouldn't push on it in the first place) and then pointed to Water's reaction to his FOS.

I'm pretty sure you mentioned the mass claim more times than he did at this point. You seem to be harping on it. I can't tell if you're innocently grasping at straws or if you're scum using legitimate points to FOS Ayyantu. I mean if you wanna keep your vote on him I totally get it, but he's clearly not a noob (I hope he's Mikal). One thing I hope doesn't happen though is a split vote count to the point of getting no claims. Fortunately the town seems more active this DP1 than in previous games so we've got time to think about it. 
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@Danielle
It's true that Ayyantu voted for Water over a "satirical post" and threw out the idea of a mass claim, but #1 with little to go on that "satirical" post was a place to start - especially since noob scum tend to slip with "jokes" like that, and #2 it could have been a reaction test. In fact it probably was considering Ayyantu immediately dropped the idea of a mass claim (after saying he wouldn't push on it in the first place) and then pointed to Water's reaction to his FOS.
Do you think he's experience enough to do reaction tests? Seems a bit out there IMO

I'm pretty sure you mentioned the mass claim more times than he did at this point. You seem to be harping on it. I can't tell if you're innocently grasping at straws or if you're scum using legitimate points to FOS Ayyantu. I mean if you wanna keep your vote on him I totally get it, but he's clearly not a noob (I hope he's Mikal).
He calls this site a shithole and the account has done like 4 debates. He'd have to have a lot of commitment to the site which I don't think he does.

I have my vote on Ayyantu because he is the candidate right now I see as the highest % of being scum because his logic for voting seems pushy. I'm not fully sold on him, but I wouldn't be opposed to lynching him
One thing I hope doesn't happen though is a split vote count to the point of getting no claims. Fortunately the town seems more active this DP1 than in previous games so we've got time to think about it. 


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@Ayyantu
it was a joke, people sometimes do an extremely obvious omgus when there are no votes or anything to go on at the beginning.
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@Vader
I'm not role hunting. I suggested a mass claim because sometimes it breaks the game in town's favor. I know people disagree, so I'm not pushing.

I'll ask again, when have you seen noob scum behave like me?
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Ayyantu just seems off if you know what I mean. He's overly aggressive, trying to lead a lynch on someone who just made a joke, then trying to prompt a FOS on Sir. This might seem like noob-play but being a noob myself it just doesn't seem right.



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The problem here is that noobs are often unpredictable. I kind of agree with Danielle, though. He does seem to have some experience, and he has said he's played before. I doubt he's an alt. I suspect him a bit, but not a lot.
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@SirAnonymous
He's obviously not completely noob, he's using word choice that a noob wouldn't use (i.e pushing, mass-claim, scum [noobs often say "mafia" I think])

Ayyantu is kinda weird like someone said "noob" Intelligence. Analyzing his behavior will hard and therefore he will rest as a null for me.


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@BearMan
Ayyantu is kinda weird like someone said "noob" Intelligence. Analyzing his behavior will hard and therefore he will rest as a null for me.
That was me that said that.
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Anyone who has miller or handicapped-vanilla should claim right about now. They won't provide the mafia any good use to kill, thus won't harm the town as much as regular characters, and rather would be anti-town if not claimed.

This is ofc if there is a justice or an affiliation cop but it would be beneficial to town to know now.
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@SirAnonymous
ok.
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What's a handicapped vanilla?
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Whatever a handicapped vanilla is, regular vanillas shouldn't claim, as that would just make it easier to NK power roles.
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For scum to NK power roles, that is.
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Millers and the like, the guys who are literally vanilla but have handicaps like appearing as scum or something