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@SirAnonymous
I had a suspc of what he was. His likely works after lynched as well.
Could be wrong
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@Mikal
3) why in the fuck would they recruit you as town if everyone other than me thought of you as confirmed
Because the recruiter dies upon recruiting scum, so targeting confirmed town guarantees they live an extra night at least.
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@Mikal
Fuck it.Can we vtnl and have you vig me tonight?
I doubt I live long enough to test it, but if we somehow vtnl on dp3 I for sure would test this assuming I wasn't killed.
I feel Like I've pretty much used my role up as best I can at this point though, I am doubtful I get a chance to use it again.
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@Lunatic
Game is over if all of this is true.
Openly say you are going to recruit me.
Dont say who the recruiter is.
If we have a random death, I'm scum confirmed.
(That won't happen. Recruit can confirm me next dp)
Then If I'm the target of a nk , I stay around to vote regardless
Openly say you are going to recruit me.
Dont say who the recruiter is.
If we have a random death, I'm scum confirmed.
(That won't happen. Recruit can confirm me next dp)
Then If I'm the target of a nk , I stay around to vote regardless
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@Mikal
Your role only lets you linger if you are killed, not lynched?
Even better the recruiter will be dead.
Just make sure I'm the target.
It forces mafia to pick between
1) you as the kill
2) hope they yolo and hit the recruit
If recruit is hit , I get mislynched but odds are in our favor
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@Lunatic
Just killed , if it was my lynched I would volunteer myself.
I think supas works as lynched. That would be my bet
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@Mikal
That could work.
Or maybe supa was hinting at BP and I read it wrong entirely
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@Mikal
The problem is, I already suspect you now, so I feel like that would be a waste and allows mafia a chance to get a 2 for 1 if you are scum. The way I am currently leaning I would rather lynch you today, and use the mason recruiter to POE elsewhere. That said I will wait for the mason recruiter to get online to discuss with them before we make our decision. I already feel guilty for outing without discussing with them, but I hope they will understand.
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@Lunatic
That could also work.
So I think the solve is as follows.
1) luna is lying. (sorry have to say it)
If he's telling the truth. I will get a message saying I'm recruited
This confirms him, the recruit, and me. I don't get a message. There is no recruit and it's a gambit.
If luna is town , he knows there is a recruit and he's Truthfull
Recruit is reading this. He visits me.
Town confirms 3 people.
After that if I'm town confirm. And I'm targeted. I'm still around to vote
If recruit does , then you have to lynch me.
Makes mafia
1)pick between luna who If telling the truth is confirmed
2) yolo try to kill the recruit to force a mislynch on me.
The fact that mike is so willing to believe I am a mason makes me scum read him harder. His response to it by having us test him indicates he believes it full force, despite thinking I was scum prior, and even recently defending his read against me. He's switched from aggressor to defensive, which indicates he is likely scum here.
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@Lunatic
If I really need to be lynched I'll eat it for poe. I wish you would have them visit me. You have to out who they are going to visit.
From my poe that is bad, cus I know I'm town. You are more likely to hit scum that way.
Keeping me alive after I'm dead is huge during the last day phases if I'm confirmed.
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@MisterChris
Activity ping. I can see that you're online and making new forum threads. How about giving us your thoughts on the situation here?
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@Mikal
If I really need to be lynched I'll eat it for poe. I wish you would have them visit me. You have to out who they are going to visit.From my poe that is bad, cus I know I'm town. You are more likely to hit scum that way.Keeping me alive after I'm dead is huge during the last day phases if I'm confirmed.
We will definitely out who we will visit before the day phase ends.
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@Lunatic
How am I suppose to believe.
Someone in the game can confirm you
If you are scum , it's either your partner who will or no one will. If no one will, you get lynched.
This would either lock you and your partner together for the rest of the game
Or you are basically confirmed.
The only way you pull this off as scum is bullshit now and name your partner as the next recruit target
If that happens the game is already over if your scum. Mixed with riddle shit and the vig , you would have literally beyond town confirmed yourself.
So based off what you are saying , I have to buy it
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@Lunatic
If I'm lying about being town at the end of this game. I'll pen roulette my gear and you can copy paste this
Catching up on DP right now
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@Vader
No McMuffins today?
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@SirAnonymous
No time
First thing is first I still believe Speed is a scum lean despite him backing off Magic. His gut reactions to Mikal's meta reading in general was so scummy and lynch hunting to me. He has jumped on Grey's wagon when I was on his wagon as well and just seems to be lurkyish. His contradictory behavior in general is a turnoff for me. Him and Grey are my two biggest scum reads
for Grey, I don't understand how tf you can misread your role and mistake a 1 for a 3. That makes no sense to me at all. He's just been inconsistent and I believe Grey is lying about his role without a doubt. It looks like the roles were random based off Pie's flip and I don't think Grey is town at all.
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@Vader
for Grey, I don't understand how tf you can misread your role and mistake a 1 for a 3.
What post did he say it was a 1? I could be wrong, but I don't remember him saying that.
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@Vader
Why do you think Speed is scum?
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@Mikal
How am I suppose to believe.Someone in the game can confirm you
It will 100% be found out tonight. Either mafia guess accurately and kill or blocks the recruiter, or the recruiter recruits succesfully giving a third person to vouch for us, or the recruiter dies and is confirmed that way. I am definitely not worried if you want to believe it though. You flop between pretending to not believe it, and believing it full on for survival purposes, meaning your likely contriving any reason not to believe it lol.
If you are scum , it's either your partner who will or no one will. If no one will, you get lynched. This would either lock you and your partner together for the rest of the game
I told you earlier I expected you to make that argument.
Or you are basically confirmed.The only way you pull this off as scum is bullshit now and name your partner as the next recruit targetIf that happens the game is already over if your scum. Mixed with riddle shit and the vig , you would have literally beyond town confirmed yourself.So based off what you are saying , I have to buy it
All this lends credence to the fact that your original read on me was contrived, because I already told you specifically earlier that I was confirmable by another townie. I suspect the flop on this is more out of neccesity for survival, since what I am claiming is very easily confirmable.
Mikal doubling down on Lunatic is town bickering to me. Mikal is always like this as town from what I've played with him in live mafia. He's gonna stick to what he thinks and he's not gonna let something go at all even if he is wrong. I don't think its scummy but just a Mikal thing to do in general. I honestly just read him more as town IMO
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@Mikal
If I'm lying about being town at the end of this game. I'll pen roulette my gear and you can copy paste this
I am not taking the bait on this one lol. Even if you were scum I doubt you would hold up on this bet, and I wouldn't want you to anyway
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@SirAnonymous
He said he gets his role revealed in NP1 but knows his affiliation. I've never seen a role mechanic that functions that way and it's so odd for you to know your know affil but not your role at all. It's weird af
I scum read Speed because he first was saying Magic is scum because of what Mikal said, then backed off it and now is claiming town. He never even wanted to pressure Magic even though she said "she's scum" but then turned his logic around. Speed wouldn't do that in my opinion like that. I also think his somewhat lurkiness and then his quick VTL of Pie so late when he was on Mikal and then him turning on Grey without putting pressure on Mikal seems weird
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@Vader
Mikal doubling down on Lunatic is town bickering to me. Mikal is always like this as town from what I've played with him in live mafia. He's gonna stick to what he thinks and he's not gonna let something go at all even if he is wrong. I don't think its scummy but just a Mikal thing to do in general. I honestly just read him more as town IMO
I'll copy and paste what I said to SirAnonymous here in response to that line of reasoning:
I wouldn't dismiss him as scum for taking an "unpopular position". If you think about it, his position wasn't all that unpopular last phase. He managed to convince you, likemagic, and oromagi and nearly derailed the lynch of pie by defending an "unpopular opinion". Which suggests his opinion wasn't unpopular. The only reason that lynch went through was because I was forced to claim. Mafia not knowing pie would flip guilty, means if they were against it last phase, they are totally surprised by the outcome. He's not making a new unpopular opinion, he's just repeating the same stuff he said last day phase. If it's unpopular, it's only because of the results from last phase vindicate me. He either has admit he was wrong, which equally doesn't look good for him, or continue to defend himself in hopes of manipulating people into thinking he's town the way you are thinking now that his behavior is town, it almost makes more sense for him to double down as scum. Again we've backed them in a corner, forced their hands.
I can vouch for this behavior; When I was scum in pie's narcos game and claimed miller and was instantly CC'ed, I had to either admit I lied for a town gambit or double down on being miller. I doubled down and fought for my life, and pulled many of the same cards mike is pulling now to seed doubt that I would behave a certain way as town. Mike's telling you that his position is unpopular is exactly WHY you shouldn't be town confirming him for saying that.
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@Lunatic
Bro the original read was not contrived for ffs
You basically have 2 diff things town confirming you. When you only had 1 before (the mod riddle. Which I didn't actually buy fully until I re read the dp when I was doing the isos)
What you are saying now is someone else can confirm you.
So yes either you tie hands with your scum partner to the end of the game. In which case the riddle was wrong, and the vig kill was to farm cred. This is still possible but unlikely. It's another feature that is making me concede my read on you. I can't just keep pushing if there is thing after thing saying you are town. If you are scum at this point, the game is probably over.
I legit don't mind being lynched. Shit stresses me to much
If you want to lynch me for poe , I'm perfectly fine with it. Didn't even want to play this. Played because you asked
Perfectly fine with going back to not playing again lmao
Or you listen to me and have the dude target me. Then I'm alive basically to the end of the game as a confirmed townie that forces mafia to waste a nk if they want to kill (and I'll still be around )
If you want to lynch me that's on you
Keep tapping distos.
You basically have 2 diff things town confirming you. When you only had 1 before (the mod riddle. Which I didn't actually buy fully until I re read the dp when I was doing the isos)
What you are saying now is someone else can confirm you.
So yes either you tie hands with your scum partner to the end of the game. In which case the riddle was wrong, and the vig kill was to farm cred. This is still possible but unlikely. It's another feature that is making me concede my read on you. I can't just keep pushing if there is thing after thing saying you are town. If you are scum at this point, the game is probably over.
I legit don't mind being lynched. Shit stresses me to much
If you want to lynch me for poe , I'm perfectly fine with it. Didn't even want to play this. Played because you asked
Perfectly fine with going back to not playing again lmao
Or you listen to me and have the dude target me. Then I'm alive basically to the end of the game as a confirmed townie that forces mafia to waste a nk if they want to kill (and I'll still be around )
If you want to lynch me that's on you
Keep tapping distos.