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Told to re mark ballots with "yesterdays date" [ 3rd] "and send them through the express system for wherever they needed to go"

To quote the Sky News reporter in the video, "We have been unable to independently verify this." Whatever is proposed without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

 Early days then.

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Rubio 2024!
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@Stephen
you keep regurgitating random conspiracy theories that have little or no basis in reality.
 Too early to tell I would say.
why would you say that? most have already been disproved. The rest have no evidence. Since there is no evidence any fraud happened, it is extremely irresponsible to claim it did. 

Despite her explaining them to you one by one why each of them are bogus, 
 In her opinion they are bogus.
its not a matter of opinion. She explained why they are bogus. 
You want there to be fraud
 No. I have said I don't have a horse in the race.
then why are you pushing conspiracy theories? Someone with no horse in the race doesn't push disproved conspiracies. 

and fairly easy to find info that disproves these hoaxes. 
Is all I have seen is someone being rude and offering nothing but opinion.
so a random person posting nonsense on the internet is reasonable to believe, but a person providing logical explanations and evidence as to why those conspiracy theories are wrong is "opinion"? And you think you don't have a horse in the race?


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where are the conservatives rushing to defend trump's honor here? we know you reliably defend all things trump, so how do you defend trump's stupid conspiracy theories? 
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My understanding is that you have absolutely no evidence anything is going on regarding the Democrats. Your sources are off baseless claims, judging that you have nothing else, your case is without substance.
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it is absolutely cheated, and I FUCKING hate that the GOP wont stand with trump
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So there has been no "fraud" at all then and everything was done by the book. 

Well that's all good then, isn't it.

"Zero Transparency"
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 Does this mean anything or is this simply to be dismissed along with all the other "conspiracy theories? 


Voter FRAUD! Caught Red Handed in Delaware Pennsylvania


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Seriously... you need to follow non MSM BS. You need to understand we are witnessing a thieving of an election by the establishment controlled by:

- MSM
- Corporations/Wall Street
- CRT infested Academia 
- Big Tech 

and more. There is so much evidence that points to banana republic type shit. You mostly are refusing to see it. Trump is standing against the endless wars, he is standing against the corrupt establishment we've all been bitching about for years. They are stealing it. Like Kennedy, like Nixon. It's all out there you actually gotta hop off MSM.

Historic dang peace deals in the Middle East
Normalization of relations in Kosovo/Serbia 
Cracking down on NK, China, Russia, and Iran

ALL WITHOUT A BULLET FIRED OR A BOMB DROPPED.

Is it any surprise that the candidate who was ending the seemingly endless wars is being disposed of by 'any means necessary'? I live in WI and as anecdotal as it is there is no way this state went to Biden. 200% turnout in multiple Milwaukee wards and that's always been corrupt af. Sending poll watchers home because counting is stopping(which is absolutely unheard of) and then dumping over 100k+ votes all for Biden and no other candidate at 3am-ish? Which isn't the only place it happened. It's happened in Michigan in Detroit, its happening in Pennsylvania in Philly. It's happening in Georgia in Atlanta. Along with GOP poll watchers being denied from watching ballot counting or placed so far away there can't actually be counting done. It's utter and rotten BS. It's shit you see in communist, authoritarian, socialist, and heavily corrupt countries. 

Orange Man is not bad, orange man has been an absolute gem. Which is why the establishment wanted him gone, and their attempt at making that happen after so many others have failed, is happening. 

https://youtu.be/rO18KUgKvsc
https://youtu.be/4X2V5hPPp6w
https://youtu.be/QHhxNvYXiJQ
https://youtu.be/EYOiDLV7bVo

Important link: Ignore the black pill, this next vid shows most of what's going on. This guy doesn't even live here, he is an American, he expatriated a long time ago and has watched from the sidelines:


Heck, in PA GOP poll watchers were barred from supervising, sued and won to gain access. Which is what Trump was referring to by stop the vote. As in STOP THE VOTE WHEN THE GOP HAS BEN BEEN KICKED OUT AND ITS UNSUPERVISED. The DNC in PA is now appealing the court order to allow access to pollwatchers. Are you effing kidding me? Why would you even bar access? Why would that even be appealed? It's absurd, absolutely absurd. 
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cash for ballots

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everything was illegal
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Trust authority.
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Whenever people say "there is no evidence".

Really, if there wasn't evidence, we wouldn't be having this discussion at all.

The only thing falsely saying, "there is no evidence" accomplishes is to radicalize the people who see that there is evidence.

There is a difference between evidence and proof. Evidence is something that gives reason to entertain a belief. Proof is evidence that leads one to change their mind or accept a belief.

There is certainly enough evidence to warrant legitimite concern about the integrity of the election. If nothing is going on, an investigation would help to clear things up.


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everything was illegal

 What do you mean " everything"?
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Democrat dead cat gets vote.



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@Danielle
What changes would you like to see happen to the election system so that any popular Orangemen can not challenge the authority of US elections?
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Widespread voter fraud was plausibly decisive in such a close election even absent any evidence, but I haven't come across anything convincing. Lots of nonsense is being shared on social media about how Wisconsin voter turnout was 5.5 standard deviation higher than its historical norm, which doesn't stand up to even 5 seconds of scrutiny. Trump supporters are being super lazy about this, which just lowers the chances that instances of real voter fraud will come to light. 
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Voter Fraud to Remove the President

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ALL WITHOUT A BULLET FIRED OR A BOMB DROPPED.
Virtually everything about your post was wrong ^_^

I'm pretty sure you're trolling because any dingbat knows Trump has dropped more bombs and missiles than Obama and GWB did in their first terms, and there are still roughly as many US bases and troops overseas as when he was elected.  He literally described his policy as "bomb the shit out of ISIS" and then dropped over 118K bombs in Iraq and Syria. Trump said “When you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families" and military confirmed that's exactly what we did. We dropped another 20K bombs on Afghanistan post Trump. The president has vetoed every bill passed by Congress to disengage US forces from the Saudi war in Yemen. He ordered the assassination of an Iranian general and damn near started a war with Iran. And he came closer to starting new wars with North Korea, Venezuela, and Iran than to ending any of the wars he inherited from Obama. We actually don't even know the extent of the bloodshed because the military stopped releasing data.

I mean it's hard to even take the rest of that dribble seriously (all non-proven, laughable nonsense) when you were just so unabashedly wrong in your claims that I'm confident you're trolling and refuting it all would be a waste of my time. Good one though lol. 
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@Stephen
You have not responded to a single one of my posts discrediting your "sources" and "evidence." Why should I keep responding to you?
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the vote
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What changes would you like to see happen to the election system so that any popular Orangemen can not challenge the authority of US elections?

Where did I ever say no one should be able to challenge the authority of US elections? What does that even mean?
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Trump's strategy is to stop counting mail-in ballots in all the states where he knows they are likely to swing Dem (which is most of them because he literally told his supporters NOT to trust mail-in ballots), but he wants to keep counting mail-in ballots in places where he knows they are likely to swing in his favor (such as Arizona) because uhh. Umm. Err. Uhh. Yeah. 

Think about it: Donald Trump is boasting on TV about how amazing he did in Florida, how the Republicans kept the Senate and how they incredibly did not lose any House seats. Yet the election is rigged! Get it?! It makes PERFECT SENSE. It is simultaneously true that he CRUSHED the numbers in Wisconsin and Florida beyond people's dreams because that's what the polls reflect, and Republicans did well -- but where he didn't do well there was FRAUD because they can't be trusted unless they're in his favor, see?  Even in red states with Republican governors and legislatures and state secretaries like Georgia and Arizona, the votes coming in against him prove a conspiracy by Democrats. And if you don't believe me you're just a bootlocking slave to authority and the state. Get woke bro FuCk ThE sYsTeM. 

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You have not responded to a single one of my posts discrediting your "sources" and "evidence."

What more do you need, you say those "sources" have been discredited. I have no reason to contradict you. When I do, I will.

 And you need to actaully read what I write. Nowhere have I called a single thing I have posted "evidence" of anything.  I have simply asked for opinions from the mercan stand point. 


 Why should I keep responding to you?

 You don't. I am not holding a gun to your head. So, off you go.


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everything was illegal

 What do you mean " everything"?

 the vote

What about the vote? Do you mean the voting system, the actual voting by the people or the alleged vote fraud counting? 
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Where did I ever say no one should be able to challenge the authority of US elections? What does that even mean?

Like should there be a time limit to accepting votes? Should ballots accepted months after Nov 3?
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Like should there be a time limit to accepting votes? Should ballots accepted months after Nov 3?

No, ballots should not be accepted months after November 3rd. But if the UPS warns months in advance that it will not be able to fulfill XYZ in such amount of time without ABC funds, then a solution is needed -- i.e. provide the funds. If the UPS is saying they need an extension or will need to postmark something a day late in location A, then find a solution as leadership is supposed to do. Send a few bipartisan watchers there to location A in particular to oversee counting of those specific votes. Attempting to suppress the vote as much as possible from the people you know are less likely to vote for you is straight up cheating. It's weird that conservatives don't see it as "rigging the system" even though it blatantly is. It's a straight up fact Dems are more likely to vote by mail and they're trying to say it's "fraud." Every single one of the people in my circle that voted Dem or that did not vote for Trump mailed their ballot in. So they're like "I know! Let's just say all of those are fraudulent! Or if they come in late through no fault of the voter, we should figure out how to legally say they don't count even though we had months to prepare for a solution." I mean come on now. 

TLDR there absolutely needs to be limits and secure processes, but to REJECT votes or discount votes without a legitimate justification is voter suppression. 
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Another thing I find bizarre is this whole "poll watcher" argument. First off there is like 1 or 2 examples, at BEST, of legitimate poll watches who were allegedly "hassled" at polling stations out of 21,000 polling stations, and that somehow proves fraud that... would... give... Trump a victory? Were those polling stations even relevant? One of the 2 (?) alleged incidents was in Philadelphia lol. In 2016, 82.3% of Philadelphia voted for Hillary because Philadelphia is largely Dem and has been for a very long time. Is that really where you want to look into whether or not the Dem votes were legitimate? Dear lord.  And Philly denies it ever happened. 

Example after example after example after example are discredited and disproven, and  now these Alex Jones-ish deep state wackjobs who use the logic that lack of evidence means nothing (because DUH THEY'RE HIDING IT SO NO PROOF = PROOF) are actually getting to people -- like Greyparrot it seems -- to completely distrust government. I find it ironic considering the vitriol directed at ANTIFA. You'd think that people who are so utterly convinced that the elites are using the DEEP STATE to overthrow the legitimately  "democratically" elected president would be more sympathetic to ANTIFA, no?

Anyway back to the polls. All the poll watchers do is stand there and make sure the procedures are being followed, i.e. signature is checked or whatever the state's particular process is. How would they detect widespread fraud? I'm not saying fraud is not possible -- it is. But there is no solid proof of any kind at this point, and conspiracy theory nutters are being hoisted by insanely partisan talking heads in the MSM (reminder that Fox News is by far the #1 most popular mainstream and cable news network...) and it is bizarre and it is dangerous and it is disgusting.

This President has no scruples at all whatsoever the way he is tearing this country apart. Politics aside, how can you claim to LOVE THIS COUNTRY by refusing to accept a peaceful transition of power? He is losing in many states. He knows he is completely unpopular. Just look at the forums here. Do you think we are all Russian bots? Lol. The hate against Trump is real. Rather than accept he is loved by many but hated by most, he would rather attack our institutions and create a dangerous division with supporters who have proven they are willing to take up arms + kidnap politicians or whatever. This man is a terrible, terrible person unfit for office. Biden and Harris are not ideal but you know what we'll deal with the politics and issues one by one. I've usually disliked policies and have gotten through it. Trump's lack of character is just a genuine threat to our constitutional republic and democracy, and the fact that people write that off as snowflakey is very sad and scary. I don't see how Trump supporters have been deluded into thinking he loves America. He only loves himself.  
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Another example: in PA the county clerks specifically told the state legislature months ago that they would be counting ballots for days after Election Day if they were not able to open mail-in ballots early (which they allow in states like FL). If they started opening earlier instead of on Election Night, you would have a winner (Biden) declared sooner. But the strategy has always been to find ways to make those mail-in ballots not count. Everyone knew Trump would be suing in Court if he lost because of the "fraudulent" process. But if he won bigly (remember he predicted Republicans would win the House lol) then the polls wouldn't... be... rigged? He's genuinely gaslighting people into thinking that the polls are only accurate if he wins. And his supporters believe it! Scary.