Avatar The Last Airbender Mafia DP3

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Lunatic says he is confirmed by Danielle being BP. I'm not sure I buy that. Yes, her role mentions Iroh. But you would think that if they truly confirmed one another Zuko would be the one that, if killed, also kills Lunatic. We need everyone to claim, and we also need Lunatic to tell us who the heck kills him if killed. 
I lied about that part, I was going to say it was Zuko since he was mentioned in my PM, obviously danielle died and I am still alive so I can't do that anymore. I am not deathproof, just lynch proof. Didn't want mafia to kill me, and claiming deathproof would protect me from being night killed, and claiming I would die if Zuko died seemed more believable. Danielle's role mentioned that Zuko and Iroh both reject Ozai's philosophy, we are clearly the same affiliation. That said, we should lynch me today. I will probably be night killed but if not I am at least more POE for you guys next phase.
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Croc essentially confirms himself as scum. 
Why is he more scum than skittlez and how are you so sure about this? You realize if we mislynch today it's over right?
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fair enough im the cabbage man. CEO of cabbage corp and the meme of the series. i am vanilla. 
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Speedrace (2/5) BearMan, Lunatic
Crocodile (2/5) Speed, Chris
Skittlez09 (1/5) whiteflame
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also i voted pie because he wasnt cooroperatin. i tried to get him to claim but he refused so i voted. if he had claimed i wouldnt have voted for him. croc voted for him at the same time so he would have been lynched either way. 
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id like to also mention that before i voted for pie i made a post giving my current reads explaining why he was my top scum read. it wasnt out of nowhere at all. 
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@Lunatic

It is weird though that Luna initially refused to full claim last day phase in post #83, but then later said he would. It's possible Luna isn't being entirely truthful about his role, but I don't wanna focus on it too much tbh. 
I wanted to be the target of a night kill or roleblock, I am hoping I at least  baited a role block.
Your change in tune is interesting. Why did you go as far as you did to prevent a mafia kill of you? Is that not anti-town? Shouldn't you open yourself up to be lynched to preserve the power roles?
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Why am I confirmed scum?
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@Lunatic
I'd agree with that if we didn't have two very clear and convincing targets for this round. Both Crocodile and skittlez are incredibly sus after their late stage votes last round. Crocodile's claim is sus to me, largely because he's not a main character, so it sounds like an overly safe choice. We can test his role, and I'm strongly considering doing just that, but I'm not convinced he's the most obvious target. I'm still unsure about Speed (despite his character getting a mention in my profile), and while Crocodile seems most likely, both of the choices Speed made as Cop were already practically confirmed safe town choices by the time he investigated them.

That's why my current vote is for skittlez. There are only three potential choices, which means we have a two in three chance of hitting scum. As I see it, skittles is the one that's clearly outed himself. Even if he gives a convincing role, he could very easily have taken it from Warren, though the fact that he hasn't claimed at all is a red flag. The vote from the last round also sets him apart. I think that Crocodile and skittlez are in the same PM, that they agreed to finish lynching whoever was put up, and that they got their wires crossed at the last second and each separately voted when only one was required to do so. Whoever the other person is - whether it's Lunatic or Greyparrot - I'd say we haven't  got the information to make that call. But on this one, at minimum, I believe we do.
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@Lunatic
Pure probability.

3 total, 2/3 are very likely town. I can say with about 60% certainty Croc is scum from that alone. 

Croc makes no effort to defend himself, and instead does a "lol" esque response. 
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VTL Lunatic

There's no reason not to try and get more info from another NP. We can force mafia to narrow our choices further

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@MisterChris
Your change in tune is interesting. Why did you go as far as you did to prevent a mafia kill of you? Is that not anti-town? Shouldn't you open yourself up to be lynched to preserve the power roles?
No change in tune at all, I knew mafia were unlikely to night kill me since I said I was willing to be lynched day phase 1. I was always open to being lyched, I am literally telling you the best course of action is to lynch me today silly. I was telling yall to do it day phase 1 as well, I went to bed and woke up and yall had already VTNL'ed remember?

I prefer a speed lynch atm as well, but if it doesn't pan out do to being a strong character or role, I am okay with being lynched as an alternative if we have no where else to go.


I'd say if we end up going no lynch, you should probably lynch me instead, but I am on board the speed lynch.

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I do absolutely believe that the cabbage man would be in this. That is very much something SupaDudz would do. That being said, I don't trust this at all, as it's still a rather safe claim. I agree with you that he was very much a clear target for uncertainty. I'm asking why you sought to end the voting when you did, not why you suspected Pie in the first place. We all had good reason to suspect them, but both you and Crocodile sought to turn that suspicion into certainty and take away any further opportunity for him to claim. Why not wait it out a little longer and see how the pressure of a fifth vote would play out? Why end the voting?
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VTL Lunatic

There's no reason not to try and get more info from another NP. We can force mafia to narrow our choices further

I support this, but should we test croc role first or too risky?
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@Lunatic
why shouldn't we VTNL instead just in case you are jester? If you have been so consistent on wanting to be lynched, then that could implicate a jester role. 
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Shouldn't you open yourself up to be lynched to preserve the power roles?
Part of the reason I'm not strongly suspicious of Lunatic at the moment is because he actively opened himself up to be lynched in DP2 and has said so several times this round as well. That could just be a very risky power play, and I'm still uncertain of him as a result, but he has made this very clear.
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@Lunatic
I support this, but should we test croc role first or too risky?
He could be popular scum, pretty sure I've seen that before, so I'm not sure if we did it would make much of a difference
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@MisterChris
Pure probability.

3 total, 2/3 are very likely town. I can say with about 60% certainty Croc is scum from that alone. 

Croc makes no effort to defend himself, and instead does a "lol" esque response. 

That's basically what croc did when he was about to be ynched in naruto before we switched to pie, remember? Also what is your thoughts on skittlez not claiming day phase 1, when in literally every game he's been town, he's claimed dp1. The only games he hasn't claimed dp1 has been the two games he was scum, bastard states and stormlight.
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@MisterChris
Never heard of a Jester with 11 people. If there are TPs those are usually on 10p games. Plus Iroh never wanted to kill himself lol
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@Lunatic
How about I hop on whatever lynch train you advocate instead of wasting the phase lynching you? practically nobody thinks you are scum.
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@Lunatic
also regardless of whiteflame's results, there probs scum on the pie lynch. what are your picks?
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Well, he's already voted for Speedrace. I don't think that's the right call for this moment, but that's the train he's on, even if he's said otherwise.
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@Lunatic
The only games he hasn't claimed dp1 has been the two games he was scum, bastard states and stormlight.
He's also claimed DP1 as scum. It doesn't mean anything
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@MisterChris
why shouldn't we VTNL instead just in case you are jester? If you have been so consistent on wanting to be lynched, then that could implicate a jester role. 
I am not a jester, it honestly makes no sense with Iroh, and Danielle's role basically suggests Iroh is in the game, and I claimed him dp1. Mafia sometimes get fake claims, but third party? It's just too much of a stretch to make any sense. That said most people genuinely hate jesters, myself included. I know I put one in my UwU mafia but it was because your role was a counter to it, and also supa's jester role only worked dp3, so it is much harder to be pulled off if he is lynched or killed earlier than that.

If you honestly think I am Jester, you should blame the mod for putting a crappy role in the game, since I've been okay with being lynched all three day phases, if I actually was jester than I am not a very inhibited one which makes it a dumb role. If I were you I wouldn't even count a jester win in those circumstances, or not even care about it.

That said, I hate being third party and often ignore my win condition to side with town. You can see this is one of speed's old MCU games where I was a lyncher.
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He's also claimed DP1 as scum. It doesn't mean anything
Where and when?
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Yes, test my role
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Where and when?
Bullish's tech game, he claimed vpn RB
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That's basically what croc did when he was about to be ynched in naruto before we switched to pie, remember? Also what is your thoughts on skittlez not claiming day phase 1, when in literally every game he's been town, he's claimed dp1. The only games he hasn't claimed dp1 has been the two games he was scum, bastard states and stormlight.

True. But I still think Croc is scum just because of how town Speed looks rn.

And I tried to read Skittlez based on that a few games ago... That got shut down, because he had said he was going to switch to not claiming immediately. And he was not scum, btw. That was in your game, in fact... UwU mafia. 
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You already know my reasons for being sus of Speed and why I think bear is town

VTL SPEED
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@Greyparrot
Actually, I was going off of the vote list from SupaDudz, which is off. Lunatic went for skittlez.