Ok this is easy. Warren is scum. This is role madness
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So warren lied because this is a role madness game in general. Since he lied, it's fair to give him pressure about why he lied about his role in general versus why he claimed vanilla in a rolemad game. It makes it worse since he is replacement, and maybe glanced over the Sign Ups. However, warren is a veteran. I have a hard time believing that he would accidentally slip and claim vanilla. I think it was intentional in general, but it depends on what claim he was hiding and why he covered it up the way he did.
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@ILikePie5
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@Vader
So warren lied because this is a role madness game in general. Since he lied, it's fair to give him pressure about why he lied about his role in general versus why he claimed vanilla in a rolemad game. It makes it worse since he is replacement, and maybe glanced over the Sign Ups. However, warren is a veteran. I have a hard time believing that he would accidentally slip and claim vanilla. I think it was intentional in general, but it depends on what claim he was hiding and why he covered it up the way he did.
I was very clear to Bullish about whether this was a role madness game and he said yes. If there’s a vanilla in the game that’s just bastard. Warren has to be scum. You’re overthinking
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@Vader
The subversion of including a single Vanilla Townie in a Role Madness game has been done many times over, to the point where claiming to be a Vanilla Townie has been considered self-confirming (if not an outright Town-tell).
Looks like Intelligence is his scum buddy. Good
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@ILikePie5
I stated a fact from the official site. Is there anything wrong huh?
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@Vader
@ILikePie5
We've stated in DP1 that a role madness doesn't have vanilla.
Uhhh... really? Because I'M vanilla.
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@MisterChris
Well, there is probably only one vanilla per game. There is no clear variation with two.
I think I might be VTLing Warren if he behaves anything sus.
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@Bullish
VTL Warren because I'M vanilla, not him!
Chris and Warren are my lynches today. If there’s a vanilla in this game, it’s not rolemadness.
This is a horrible attempt to salvage the situation by MisterChris. Him and Warren are pretty much confirmed scum
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@MisterChris
Uhhh... really? Because I'M vanilla.
Are you serious?
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@ILikePie5
dude. Somebody with an investigative role can confirm me. I am 100% vanilla, I swear it.
My justification is pretty simple:
I am a Chromebook. Since chromebook are very weak and cheap computers that are sold en masse to students and the like, I am vanilla.
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@Speedrace
100%.
11 player game. Likely 3 scum
8-3 (Beginning)
7-3 (DP2)
Either Warren or Chris are scum. I think it’s both
5-3, 4-2 at the worse
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@MisterChris
dude. Somebody with an investigative role can confirm me. I am 100% vanilla, I swear it.My justification is pretty simple:I am a Chromebook. Since chromebook are very weak and cheap computers that are sold en masse to students and the like, I am vanilla.
Nah that’s bs. I wouldn’t have played this game if it wasn’t role madness. There’s no way you’re vanilla and neither is Warren.
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@ILikePie5
Nah that’s bs. I wouldn’t have played this game if it wasn’t role madness. There’s no way you’re vanilla and neither is Warren.
You're going to ignore the fact it's apparently common practice to stick a vanilla in the role madness game to mess with town??
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@MisterChris
You're going to ignore the fact it's apparently common practice to stick a vanilla in the role madness game to mess with town??
That’s definitely not common practice lol
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@ILikePie5
If you need more detail about my justification, or any other specifics, feel free to ask.
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@ILikePie5
The subversion of including a single Vanilla Townie in a Role Madness game has been done many times over, to the point where claiming to be a Vanilla Townie has been considered self-confirming (if not an outright Town-tell).
Uh huh. Sure.
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@ILikePie5
Riddle me this: if I were mafia, why the hell would I out myself as the same thing my "teammate" is and then VOTE FOR HIM? Don't you see how absolutely stupid that would be? Truth is, I'm town. The reason I counterclaimed is because APPARENTLY having vanilla as your role in role-madness is enough to get you insta-lynched around here, and I figured that it was better to tell you guys now instead of lying about it or revealing it down the road to simply get mislynched.
Plus, yknow, there is the fact that I genuinely think Warren is scum. Since it is role madness, I have to be the only vanilla here.
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@MisterChris
Uh huh. Sure.
Find one rolemadness game on this site that has had a vanilla. I’ll wait.
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@MisterChris
Riddle me this: if I were mafia, why the hell would I out myself as the same thing my "teammate" is and then VOTE FOR HIM? Don't you see how absolutely stupid that would be? Truth is, I'm town. The reason I counterclaimed is because APPARENTLY having vanilla as your role in role-madness is enough to get you insta-lynched around here, and I figured that it was better to tell you guys now instead of lying about it or revealing it down the road to simply get mislynched.Plus, yknow, there is the fact that I genuinely think Warren is scum. Since it is role madness, I have to be the only vanilla here.
It’s an effort to bus. Not that hard to comprehend. If you were vanilla you should’ve claimed the first day. I’m very particular about playing in games with vanillas.
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@ILikePie5
Truth is, I didn't know that there were no vanillas in a rolemad game. If I had, I would have claimed earlier.
Anyway, here is the example you asked for:
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/3983-memes-of-the-2010s-mafia-endgameHe literally had Supa as Vanilla with a different name. There is a precedence then of having vanilla roles in role madness in Bullish games.
Man last time Pie said something was bastard we didn't end up well.
One of them, Chris or Warren are mafia, not both. I'm sticking it to Warren for being mafia or its not role madness.
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@ILikePie5
It’s an effort to bus.
That's not my point. My point is it is an extremely STUPID effort to bus. A better way would have been to just jump on the train to lynch him and claim something less stupid later on.
This is what Bullish said about vanilla vs role madness games:
“There can be great depth in an all vanilla game, if the players are willing to put in the pains of methodical psychological analysis, like the original game was meant for. When I was on mafiascum they were very serious about behaviours. DDO and DART are more serious about behaviours than most sites. We have popular mafia spinoff games like town of salem and among us, where there is basically 0 behavioural analysis.
I prefer more behavioural analysis, but I have to be in the mood to be super serious about it. I also think you can make a rolemad game such that the town and scum roles nearly completely cancel each other out, and you just end up with a game where the roles are as useless as vanilla.”
There’s no way in hell Bullish says this is a rolemadness game and includes a vanilla.
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@ILikePie5
How does that prove ANYTHING?