If you say that if X happens I'll think Y, then you give the mafia the chance to manipulate you.
I think the entire focus of the game shouldn't be analyzing whether a miller and lovers are in the game lol.
I mean if your goal is to cater to lazy people, then yes. I say fvck the lazy @ssholes lol. We are slowly phasing out of that with players like SA, and misterchris, but I think the people who get bored of reading things are part of the larger problem with mafia, and eventually we will either phase them out, or they will win and all games will be lazy crap shoots with no effort involved. Here's hoping that won't be the case.
The day phase is towns most important tool for finding scum. The longer a phase goes on, the more information comes out.
The more likely scum will say something that they may later contradict themselves with. Scum don't want long day phases, remember, they are lying and constantly have to keep track of their lies. Town have nothing to lie about, and are much less likely to slip like that.
Information is gold, why settle for a bar when you can have a treasure chest of it?
I can spin this the same way, you want to fast rush the game because you find taking the time to look into posts and analyze them as being boring. "aT lEaSt Be HoNeSt AbOuT uR mOtIvEs"
Behavioral analysis, looking into motives of why someone would push for certain lynches, contradictions, etc. What was the point of your reaction test earlier if not to get behavioral information?
I enjoy hunting scum and getting them lynched. Not virtually banging my head against a wall with people who want to waste days of everyone else's lives because it personally amuses them. You realize that in most settings, this is a rather quick party game, right? You play live mafia. Do those games take literal days to play? No. The entire game is over in a few hours at most. That's because it all happens in real-time.And that's my point. The ONLY reason these forum games take multiple days is because of logistical reason involving player activity and input. It is a necessary deviation from the ideal. If we can get closer to that ideal with high activity, then all the better! Seize the opportunity!
If LOVERS are both TOWN and my statement of the obvious does not change SCUM's mind to kill the LOVERs than my statement had no impact.
If LOVERS are both TOWN and my statement of the obvious changes SCUM's mind and LOVERs survive, then I have done TOWN a favor.
If LOVERs are not both TOWN (as I suspect) then I have increased the likelihood that they'll be monitored.
As Emerson said, a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. I never feel beholden to prior analysis in the face of good evidence to the contrary.If LOVERS survive, we can hope some role verifies them . If LOVERS die, we can hope some role has evidence. Every alternative is WiFoM at this point, I just want TOWN to go forward with a wary eye on the LOVERS claim. You don't, apparently, for reasons you fail to explain. Why do you believe the LOVERS when we agree that their claim is anti-TOWN?
There's your problem right there. You think the entire game is just this day phase. It isn't. There are more, I assure you. I hope we get to see it before I start collecting social security.
You say this, but the solution would be to actually bring more information or a fresh spin to old arguments. You haven't done either.
Actually that's false. And if it was true, you said you don't want that to happen: "ousting more information is probably harmful at this point"
All of this is good in theory but it fails in practice. History shows that scum will simply fade into the background and let town tunnel in on each other. Why you suddenly have goldfish memory about this is beyond me.
When you start posting gold, you'll have me convinced.
Except that is you making up lies about my motivations. I'm simply pointing out your motivation based on your own words.
And I got it. And now I'm acting on it. That's the point of getting information after all. Not to treasure it and put it in a chest. But to actually, you know, use it and play the game.When are you going to start playing?
You're clogging up the DP with this argument. It isn't productive.
it's still a fact that one is definitely a lover since the other confirmed this.
This is false. They could both be SCUM taking a big risk.
Heh. I don't think I'm ever going to be in a list like that.
I agree that the argument has run it's course. Ping me when these gold nuggets of yours start flowing.
Maybe if I play for twenty years and work hard on improving. The level of behavioral analysis required to do that is well beyond me
And I got it. And now I'm acting on it. That's the point of getting information after all. Not to treasure it and put it in a chest. But to actually, you know, use it and play the game.When are you going to start playing?How exactly are you using the information from the reaction test by voting for skittlez lol. I mean you pointed out that you thought intelligence was scummy but dropped that and are now back on skittlez because it's the most convienent lynch for you.
Though I may be willing to make a bet with you, that quick bandwagoning isn't always profitable. Either in this game or the next I can just say fvck it, and quickly bandwagon every lynch that occurs since that it what you suggest is better gameplay.
How exactly are you using the information from the reaction test by voting for skittlez lol. I mean you pointed out that you thought intelligence was scummy but dropped that and are now back on skittlez because it's the most convienent lynch for you.
That isn't what I suggest is better gameplay. I really don't know what you think you get by so transparently misrepresenting my position. I mean, it's one thing if you think so low of other people that they'll be fooled by it, but the idea that you think you're going to trick me into believing your mischaracterization of what I believe - I don't even know why you try.
