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supa is quite sus.
- Supa is quite capable of skipping the NK to improve his DOC claim
- DOC and JK seem OP for a drafter game
- Supa was last to claim and was silent when TUF argued that JK precluded a DOC
- Supa's character claim is bad- a totally forgettable off-brand non-badass role.
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@oromagi
John Shaft wasn't even originally played by Samuel L Jackson.
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@oromagi
- Croc's play is always, consistently scummy and therefore not indicative.
How can you just keep him alive and not lynch him even when his play is bad. You allowing it to happen is giving him a pass
- But Croc first claimed non-SLJ because he looked up the actor who played the original Shaft.
- Even without understanding that the theme was SLJ, Croc nailed the claim- John Shaft is a good match for COP.
- Croc claimed COP halfway thru DP1 when only one VANILLA claim was on the table. A huge risk if he's not a COP.
- His COP of TUF NP1 is convenient but not that unlikely a choice.
- He would have had Speed for scum partner.
- Speed would have told Croc the theme and
- advised against COP claim DP1.
Again, do you not think maybe Speed purposely staged it that way
Also you are my second most likely scum. Why are you more town than I am.
mharman is also quite sus-
- worst character claim- barely a speaking role from 1973 but that might match vanilla
- third VANILLA to claim- feels like one too many VANILLAs
- partnered with Speed vigorously all through DP1 and DP2- .
- said he was taking a break but then stayed for hours to defend after train started on Speed. Went dark same time as Speed in both DPs
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@oromagi
Like I said, that's simply not true in any regards. 2 investigative roles in a game is a huge red flag to me. Why would you have two powerful roles at all. I keep saying that JK is not a big power role. You lose an action from a power role if any, and a doctor that can't self heal is relying solely, and I say solely, on luck.
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@oromagi
You were buddying Speed a bit in DP1 as well when in regards to Lunatic. You randomly turned on DP2 though. I've been consistently on Speed as a top scum
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@oromagi
So with your role, if you were to hypothetically die from the lynch in DP4, could you resurrect still?
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@Vader
Also you are my second most likely scum. Why are you more town than I am.
Because I insisted that Speed must die when Mharman tried to turn the train on you.
Because I full claimed in Post #7 before I knew theme
Because I read and supported Intel's WATCHER claim
Because if Speed and I were scum together we'd never claim REINCARNATOR and BLEEDER within a couple of posts
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@oromagi
Because I insisted that Speed must die when Mharman tried to turn the train on you.
Because I full claimed in Post #7 before I knew theme
I did the same thing as well. So this is relatively invalid
Because I read and supported Intel's WATCHER claim
I did the same thing too, plus I had a scum read on Speed the entire DP1
Because if Speed and I were scum together we'd never claim REINCARNATOR and BLEEDER within a couple of posts
But Speed did a fake CC on Intel with Tracker, so he technically did not claim Bleeder
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@Vader
Like I said, that's simply not true in any regards. 2 investigative roles in a game is a huge red flag to me. Why would you have two powerful roles at all. I keep saying that JK is not a big power role. You lose an action from a power role if any, and a doctor that can't self heal is relying solely, and I say solely, on luck.
I've been in many, many games with both a COP and a WATCHER. However, MafiaWiki calls JK a RB + DOC. I'm increasingly convinced JK and DOC in a 9 man game does not make sense.
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@Vader
-->@oromagiJohn Shaft wasn't even originally played by Samuel L Jackson.
I know. I said this before you did.
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@oromagi
So you take no reads into that at all
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@Vader
How can you just keep him alive and not lynch him even when his play is bad. You allowing it to happen is giving him a pass
anti-town play =/= scum
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@oromagi
NOTE: Elijah Price was also played by a different actor in 2000 as well.
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@oromagi
I strongly disagree with this theory. And I mean strongly. Bad town is not anti town, but anti town is scum
You randomly turned on DP2 though.
Nope. I was quite clear that SPEED got caught visiting the NK while claiming a non-visitor role. This is an almost automatic priority lynch. Strange that you seem to have forgotten that dramatic thing that happened yesterday.
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@oromagi
I've been in many, many games with both a COP and a WATCHER. However, MafiaWiki calls JK a RB + DOC. I'm increasingly convinced JK and DOC in a 9 man game does not make sense.
But is that how drafter defines it as. I don't have the experience but I've never been in a game with a Watcher and a Cop at all unless there is a GF and Ninja, and Speed did not flip as any of those. I have no reason to believe that in anyway is a Cop and Watcher feasible. I do have reason to believe a JK + DOC - Self Doc is good imo. I believe that a JK is also negative utility if someone outs as cop and screws over town because of it. A Doc does nothing besides heal and the odds of that being successful are theoretically low
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@oromagi
No I didn't. You buddied with him versus Lunatic in DP1. You switched after Speed was outted
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@Vader
So with your role, if you were to hypothetically die from the lynch in DP4, could you resurrect still?
No. Lynch takes me out of the game. If I am otherwise killed in DP3, I return at the end of NP3. If I am killed NP3, I return at the end of NP4. Town loses my vote during my absence.
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@oromagi
I find that really suspicious
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@Vader
Because I full claimed in Post #7 before I knew themeI did the same thing as well. So this is relatively invalid
I have you down as last to claim. Show me this early claim
Because I read and supported Intel's WATCHER claimI did the same thing too, plus I had a scum read on Speed the entire DP1
Non-indicative. Scum often sus their partners to create distance.
Because if Speed and I were scum together we'd never claim REINCARNATOR and BLEEDER within a couple of postsBut Speed did a fake CC on Intel with Tracker, so he technically did not claim Bleeder
That's a lie. He claimed BLEEDER and gave a believable character claim. He didn't CC Intel until caught standing over TUF's dead body.
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@Crocodile
Look, we aren't gonna leave you alone until you do something.
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@Vader
-->@oromagiNOTE: Elijah Price was also played by a different actor in 2000 as well.
false. why you lie, brah?
Samuel L. Jackson as Elijah Price / Mr. Glass, a comic book theorist who has Type I osteogenesis imperfecta and was revealed to be the man behind the train crash incident.
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@Mharman
@Crocodile
OK
after that exchange, I'm leaning Supa for scum.
Of course, COP could make this all quite easy. And the longer Mharman delays adds weight to the case against him.
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@oromagi
#52
But he still did a CC.
OK but I did not sus him, I had him as my top two scum reads, and had a scum read. I did not distance myself from him. I've been actively engaging in all players in this game who choose to be active. Where have I actively distanced myself from?
You also claimed last as Reincarnator. I claimed my character and role when told to do so by you. And don't give me the "well you claimed char & not role." I had doctor in there for a reason
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#54
I misread, kid him was played by that person, apologies
Uh...I am a red square now
I am logging off computer to finish a paper, I will get on phone later
Because I full claimed in Post #7 before I knew themeI did the same thing as well. So this is relatively invalidI have you down as last to claim. Show me this early claimYou also claimed last as Reincarnator.
False. I claimed DP1 #6 before you joined the game
What would Jesus do? breadcrumbed REINCARNATOR and NICK FURY
Uh...I am a red square now
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