Civil War Generals Mafia DP1

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omg im so happy your playing btw. I'll try to suppress my excitement in the future, but you were one of the better mafia players and our community took a hit when you left. 
Super happy as well

As for that "good town" debate, I really don't think that there are good town in the sense of win rates or scumhunting rates (I haven't counted but I don't think mine is all that hot lol) but I think good town is defined by being active and being logical
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I am part of the confederate and I win with the town.

Although, everyone who's not an idiot is gonna say they win with the town lol
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Good to see you again. I hope you aren't mafia, or we're all in trouble.
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Hahaha, funnily enough I just lost two games as scum for the first time in ages (live mafia but mafia nonetheless) on Friday
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@Speedrace
That's extremely bold claim to make looking at it. You must be a miller of some sorts
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@Speedrace
Live mafia is a very different game.
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@Vader
I doubt it. I don't think Pie would make the theme something as simple as Union vs. Confederates. It's possible, but I'm guessing the theme isn't quite that obvious.
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I'm not a miller
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With Speed's recent claim that makes the theme a bit harder to define. I have a couple of theories:

North vs. South Heritage

Good vs. Bad Generals (performance, morals, etc)


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@MisterChris
Both are possible. However, I find it's useless to speculate about the theme until we've seen some flips.
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Then, of course, there is the possibility Speed is lying about his pro-town alignment. If we continue to get more Union town members that will be a good indicator of whether or not he is being truthful. 
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@SirAnonymous
That's a fair opinion. I like to throw out some ideas here and there though
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@MisterChris
Don't count on it. Put yourself in the mafia's shoes. Would you claim Union or Confederate? Most would say Union because it sounds less suspicious. Consequently, the number of people who claim Union vs. Confederacy won't matter much unless more than 3 people claim Confederate, in which case we can rule out Union vs. Confederate as a possible theme.
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@SirAnonymous
That may be precisely the sort of reasoning he is counting on you having. Speed is quite experienced from my understanding and knows admitting Confederate wouldn't be a huge scum tell. That said I don't want to jump to hasty conclusions so I'm going to wait and see what the others say
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Also just to point it out, not sure we should insta town read oro or Supa from the PM gambit because it's likely that scum got town PM structure. Does anyone know if Pie does that?
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@MisterChris
That may be precisely the sort of reasoning he is counting on you having. Speed is quite experienced from my understanding and knows admitting Confederate wouldn't be a huge scum tell. That said I don't want to jump to hasty conclusions so I'm going to wait and see what the others say
I'd only claim confederate as scum if I knew for a fact that Union v Conf isn't the theme (AKA I can tell from fellow scum PMs that it's not the theme or the mod tells the scum team outright what the theme is)

Otherwise I'd either claim union or try to wait it out to see if anyone else claims confederate
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True. Oromagi, where do you read on your own quiz? 

  • You are Town.
  • You win with Town
  • You win with the Town
CONFEDERATE
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UNION


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@Speedrace
I don't really know your Scum meta, so maybe that's true. Pie did it last game so that makes me wonder, though. 
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Pie did it last game so that makes me wonder, though. 
Did what, gave town pm structure?
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@Speedrace
Oh no, I meant that Pie claimed a clear antagonist from the start despite being a mafia lol
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True. Oromagi, where do you read on your own quiz? 

  • You are Town.
  • You win with Town
  • You win with the Town
CONFEDERATE
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UNION

I am CONFEDERATE.  I win with the Town
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@oromagi
I see. That blows another hole in Confederate vs Union theory.
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It's fairly obvious now that there isn't a theme split with Confederacy. I don't want to get too much into theme in this DP though

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@Vader
Agreed. I think too much time was wasted on the theme in the last game. Let's not repeat that mistake.
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I also am going to disregarding a good vs bad split in this as well according to my PM. My person was a good general in some aspects
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I hate my general though, but that's personal preference

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@MisterChris
With Speed's recent claim that makes the theme a bit harder to define. I have a couple of theories:

North vs. South Heritage

Good vs. Bad Generals (performance, morals, etc)


beards vs mustaches

Whatever happens McClellan is scum