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@Vader
What happened to our 2 hour extension?
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@That1User
The best move is to vote for Speed then?
In my view yes as a policy lynch
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@Crocodile
im not lurking im lazy like pattern said
The honesty has me dead
I want to lynch this DP, it gives us more information going into tomorrow but I strongly disagree with a GP lynch
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@Pattern
The fact that not a single user has independent reads on bearman just makes me suspect him more after the attempts to silence my opinion by dis-regarding it as tunnel vision.I've already mentioned it wasn't the strongest evidence to say he is scum; The fact that he reacted to poorly to that pressure was what was scummy. Also the fact that he finally admitted it was a mistake in a reply, but defended his action at the same time was also the scummier part.Chris, speed, water you can dis-agree with that specific read. Do you not have any other read on the man though? I heard people saying he was being helpful to town, can you elaborate on this? How has he been helpful? The fact that he listed a bunch of characters showing he has theme knowledge? Is that quite literally it? Please. I would really like some enlightenment.
I already said that I think him outing the doctor is towny.
Also, why has no one responded to my scum read of That? I would like thoughts on them
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@Pattern
The extension was to 6 CST
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@Speedrace
Also, why has no one responded to my scum read of That? I would like thoughts on them
Remind me of what it was? I can't be bothered to track it down
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@Pattern
Why are you still voting yourself lmao. Do you want to lynch GP today?
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@MisterChris
Scum Reads:4. That1User - slight scum read because of this post where she says thank you to Bear for saying to protect her because she might be doctor, yet she doesn't claim doctor...that's suspicious to me
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@oromagi
Anything to say about this GP lynch?
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@Speedrace
It's in the best interest of the doctor to lay low. She was outed, but didn't confirm it likely to keep at least a minimal amount of mystery about her.
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@Speedrace
And, in any case, she has been much too open (ex: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4683/post-links/195586) for me to suspect much
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@Vader
Vote CountVTNL [3/7] That1User, Chris, GreyparrotPattern [1/7] PatternSpeedrace [3/7] oromagi, Pie, GreyGreyparrot [5/7] Speedrace, Water, skittlez, BearMan, Ragnar
GP is on there twice
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@MisterChris
Are you still under the impression that we should VTNL? I seriously don’t see how it benefits us
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@Pattern
okay listen. "ousting" the doctor doesn't make a person mafia. i already explained this but i do not believe that bearman is incompetent enough to announce who everyone should track or watch as mafia. it's most likely a town slip up on his part.
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@ILikePie5
It's not ideal.. But I want to give Grey the opportunity to give us information through his tracking ability, and I also don't quite buy needing to lynch speed. I feel that I was wrong about Pattern, so that just leaves people who have not been piled on.
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@MisterChris
why do you think we should still vtnl? we probably don't have enough time to get 4 players active in the remaining 30 minutes and even if we do i honestly don't see how it would benefit town.
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@MisterChris
It's not ideal.. But I want to give Grey the opportunity to give us information through his tracking ability, and I also don't quite buy needing to lynch speed. I feel that I was wrong about Pattern, so that just leaves people who have not been piled on.
Mafia are going to have it planned out to mess with this strategy tho
Ok guys we need to settle on something,
i personally believe VTNL is a bad choice, what would it do?
we should lynch this dp imo
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@ILikePie5
Maybe... If not Speed, who do you suppose?
Wanted to make a bigger case against speed, but since Supa is ending the day phase early, here is why I am voting speed:
1. Hypocrisy! Dude has consistently said I was OMGUS'ing everyone who has voted for me, which is objectively just not true; But secondly The whole reason I am really pushing bear is because Bear hardcore omgus'ed me for pointing out 1 scummy thing he did! Why does speed care about me "OMGUSing" but not bear? Ironically I actually see a world where bear is town and Speed is scum, and speed using bear as an avenue to try and get what he feels is an easier lynch on me by proxy of using MisterChris's bias here, rather than him actually buddy-buddying Bear. Though it is very possible he is doing that. The fact he doesn't even read bear except for a fake @ss soudning town read on him for the reason I suspected him doesn't help his case. The read feels convoluted, a way to double down after I have proven him wrong. Which leads into the second reason:
2. Speed behavior at his won wagon seems calm and calculated; He has an air of seemingly knowing he won't get lynched, and as such is why he isn't fighting his lynch. Him and GP are the two biggest lynch options right now and he doesn't even seem phased, and has put minimal effort into steeering the lynch elsewhere the way he did as town in the previous game.
3. This feels more calm and calculated. His reads don't seem broad, and all he has done is double down on me, seemingly not scum hunting or looking into anyone else behaviorally. This doesn't feel like town speed.
VTL speedrace.
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@Speedrace
I already said that I think him outing the doctor is towny.
Thinking that defies all logic.
Also, why has no one responded to my scum read of That? I would like thoughts on them
What? I am confused what you mean.
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@MisterChris
Maybe... If not Speed, who do you suppose?
the guy with the most votes on him.
(hint: it's greyparrot)
(hint #2: lynch greyparrot)
(hint #3: do it)
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@MisterChris
Maybe... If not Speed, who do you suppose?
If I had a gun to my head I’d say the lazy people like Croc, but it’s his usual playstyle so idk. I personally want Speed. His claim is just scummy and it’s better to get rid of it sooner rather than later
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@Speedrace
Also, why has no one responded to my scum read of That? I would like thoughts on them
Why do you scumread me?
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@MisterChris
It’s honestly between Speed and GP rn. Who do you think is scummier?
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@MisterChris
Look, I just disagreed with your original reasoning. BearMan is just not hitting any of my scum alarm bells.
Are you doubling down on this because you don't want to be ashamed of being wrong, or do you really think his lurky behavior is pro town?He has done nothing but OMGUS me and then unvote when it seemed convienent to do so.
Both of you reacted equally poorly imo. Doesn't really amount to evidence
His response was ltieral OMGUS, denying he did something wrong, to later acknowledging he did something wrong by matter of reply.... Why couldn't he just outright say what he did was wrong? Why do you not think what he did was wrong when you yourself didn't want to out the doctor?
Bear just doesn't hit my mafia alarm bell man. It's not that I haven't been paying attention to him. We can revisit the subject in DP2
The majority of the qoutes are theme theory, that should be a null tell at best, unless you assume the mafia team have no knowledge on the theme.
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@Speedrace
Also, why has no one responded to my scum read of That? I would like thoughts on them
oh you mean that1user! I don't see where you scum read him, I'll go look. But prima facie that makes no sense for you to town read bear for ousting him if you scum read that1user, since bear was claiming he was doing it to help town, and if you agree with what he was doing was protown, then you should have believed that sakura claim was more likely town.
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@ILikePie5
Alright, maybe. But I'll only seriously consider a vote if it's clear Speed is going to be lynched. Get some more support and I'll be tempted (like 1-2 votes away).
As much as I'd hate to vote without much evidence, if the town is in universal agreement I don't really see a reason for my biases to stand in the way.
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@Vader
2 hour extension please? Like you promised?