First corrupt FBI to plead guilty. Russiagate exposed.

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That’s besides the point. When did he know about? Why did he know about it in the first place? According to you you shouldn’t have known right?
information about the steele dossier and Carter Page had been public knowledge for months at that point. Everyone knew about it. You are surprised that the President knew about things that had been in the news?

there is no “collusion” in the law books. What’s your point?
this is exactly my point. Trump's team did collude with the russians. That is well established. But collusion is not criminal. That is exactly why trump popularized using that term rather than a more accurate one. Because no matter what information came to light, he could spin it as not being "collusion". 

Mueller exonerated Trump and the campaign on criminal conspiracy charges which is the closest to “collusion.”
so he colluded with the foreign power that has been proven to have interfered in the election to help trump. That is established. It was not able to be proven he committed a crime while doing this. 

Not to mention you’re changing the topic.
you brought up mueller, not me.


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information about the steele dossier and Carter Page had been public knowledge for months at that point. Everyone knew about it. You are surprised that the President knew about things that had been in the news?
The first investigation into Michael Flynn was set to close the day before that specific White House meeting. And no one knew of FISA abuses till at least 2018 lol. That shit was classified till at least 2018. But it still doesn’t answer the question of when he knew Crossfire Hurricane had started. The public knew when Jim Comey told Congress in March 20, 2017. Why did Susan Rice write an email to herself about that meeting two weeks after it happened, minutes before Trump’s inauguration? Either way, the meeting implicates Jim Comey if not Barack Obama.

this is exactly my point. Trump's team did collude with the russians. That is well established. But collusion is not criminal. That is exactly why trump popularized using that term rather than a more accurate one. Because no matter what information came to light, he could spin it as not being "collusion".
So what’s your point? He did nothing illegal?

so he colluded with the foreign power that has been proven to have interfered in the election to help trump. That is established. It was not able to be proven he committed a crime while doing this.
So he did nothing wrong cause a crime can’t be proven. Therefore exoneration cause the prosecution can’t prove a crime occurred?

you brought up mueller, not me.
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The first investigation into Michael Flynn was set to close the day before that specific White House meeting. And no one knew of FISA abuses till at least 2018 lol. That shit was classified till at least 2018. But it still doesn’t answer the question of when he knew Crossfire Hurricane had started.
the email you are using as evidence makes no mention of FISA or Crossfie hurricane. It doesn't say anything that anyone who watches the news would have known. 

Why did Susan Rice write an email to herself about that meeting two weeks after it happened, minutes before Trump’s inauguration? Either way, the meeting implicates Jim Comey if not Barack Obama.
it appears to be basically just notes for herself. It doesn't appear to implicate anyone of anything. 

So what’s your point? He did nothing illegal?
he colluded with a foreign power for the express purpose of interfering in a US election. The people he was colluding with then did interfere in the election. That is my point. I was refuting your outright lie when you said comey concluded he didn't collude with Russia. It was the exact opposite. Comey proved the trump team did collude with russia. 

So he did nothing wrong cause a crime can’t be proven.
lol you appear to be confusing "wrong" with "criminal". If you scream obscenities at a child it might not be a crime. But it is still wrong. 

Therefore exoneration cause the prosecution can’t prove a crime occurred?
still no. Mueller showed the trump team committed multiple counts of obstruction of justice, which is a crime. 


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the email you are using as evidence makes no mention of FISA or Crossfie hurricane. It doesn't say anything that anyone who watches the news would have known. 
So you’re telling me the investigation into Michael Flynn that was supposed to close a day earlier because the FBI found no wrongdoing continued because of Barack Obama and Jim Comey right? No American knew of that White House meeting lol

it appears to be basically just notes for herself. It doesn't appear to implicate anyone of anything.
Who writes notes to themselves two weeks after the meeting, right before the inauguration saying Obama did nothing wrong and Jim Comey did everything. Why aren’t you in support of bringing Jim a Comey to testify?

lol you appear to be confusing "wrong" with "criminal". If you scream obscenities at a child it might not be a crime. But it is still wrong.
But everything he did was legal right? Yelling the N word is wrong but it is protected speech under the 1st amendment in public areas. If it’s not a crime per your logic and Mueller’s logic then Trump took advantage of the law just like rich people take advantage of tax laws.

still no. Mueller showed the trump team committed multiple counts of obstruction of justice, which is a crime. 
Well thanks for conceding with regards to collusion no prosecutor would’ve pursued a case. Obstruction of justice was left for Mueller to prosecute but he did not. He could’ve reccomended a crime to Congress for impeachment like Ken Starr did but he didn’t. Cause he knew there wasn’t enough evidence to do so.
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Obstruction of justice was left for Mueller to prosecute but he did not. He could’ve reccomended a crime to Congress for impeachment like Ken Starr did but he didn’t. Cause he knew there wasn’t enough evidence to do so.

They went with obstruction of Congress instead of obstruction of justice for grounds for impeachment since the evidence bar is so much lower for that.
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So you’re telling me the investigation into Michael Flynn that was supposed to close a day earlier because the FBI found no wrongdoing continued because of Barack Obama and Jim Comey right? No American knew of that White House meeting lol
what are you talking about? The email you referred to did refer to anything that wasn't public knowledge. It was a person sending themselves an email about a discussion where publicly available information was discussed. Why do you think this is evidence of something?

Who writes notes to themselves two weeks after the meeting, right before the inauguration saying Obama did nothing wrong and Jim Comey did everything. Why aren’t you in support of bringing Jim a Comey to testify?
Do you think you're making sense? You're not. You are just stating random things and seem to be convincing yourself that it is evidence of something. 

But everything he did was legal right? 
no. obstruction of justice is a crime. 

If it’s not a crime per your logic and Mueller’s logic then Trump took advantage of the law just like rich people take advantage of tax laws.
so your argument is that if a politician conspires with a foreign power against the interests of america, as long as it isn't technically illegal we should all just be fine with that?

Well thanks for conceding with regards to collusion no prosecutor would’ve pursued a case.
because collusion isn't a crime. Trump was the one who constantly repeated the line about collusion specifically because it wasn't a crime. There was never any question about whether he would be charged with "collusion".


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what are you talking about? The email you referred to did refer to anything that wasn't public knowledge. It was a person sending themselves an email about a discussion where publicly available information was discussed. Why do you think this is evidence of something?
Americans did not know of this White House meeting a day after the investigation into Michael Flynn was set to close because there was no evidence. The investigation continued. Why? Who ordered the continuation even after it was found Flynn did nothing wrong?

Do you think you're making sense? You're not. You are just stating random things and seem to be convincing yourself that it is evidence of something. 
Is that code for I don’t understand what was going on. Keep on feigning ignorance dude.

no. obstruction of justice is a crime. 
Trump wasn’t charged with it, nor was it reccomended to Congress for impeachment.

so your argument is that if a politician conspires with a foreign power against the interests of america, as long as it isn't technically illegal we should all just be fine with that? 
But he didn’t conspire. Mueller said so. Conspiring is illegal.

because collusion isn't a crime. Trump was the one who constantly repeated the line about collusion specifically because it wasn't a crime. There was never any question about whether he would be charged with "collusion".
So the investigation was into criminal conspiracy right? And Trump was exonerated. Thanks for playing. Have a good day.
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They went with obstruction of Congress instead of obstruction of justice for grounds for impeachment since the evidence bar is so much lower for that.
Saint Mueller failed. Kevin Clinesmith was a part of his team. Vive la resistance is soon going to fail.