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@Lunatic
I have seen you (ragnar) slide into forums where things have been ridiculously reported and I can practically see you rolling your eyes at the report. I'll link this as an example since I used it earlier: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4154-someone-is-secretly-admiring-me-on-dart?page=4&post_number=97. That is to say I think you agree with me in general that you don't want to over-moderate.
Correct. While I don't think there should be zero moderation, not every statement someone disagrees with need be reported.
there are too many moderators
We usually use this to lessen punishments, by deflecting off people with cooler heads at any given time. Still, good to know the perception is bad.
Not sure the best way to handle it. The reason for vote and forum moderators, is to make it less of a burnout job, and to pass things on to people with less investment in any feud.
if you can amount a hundred small offenses to equal a huge one, it's easy to justify a ban on someone like RM by dismissing him as "always just being a problem".
I can admit that is the slippery slope we're on. I stand by bans being about patterns more often than a single insult or whatever (with a few exceptions where it was particularly excessive), but we do need checks and balances to keep it from getting out of control (or reigning it into control if already out of control).
1. Go down to 1 moderator2. Use a lot more discretion in both banning, and choosing ban lengths.
Ironically, part 1 is something RM has repeatedly suggested (himself as site moderator), but the opposite of part 2 (well he would probably call it the ultimate discretion, but I you get the idea). ... This has continued even after removing the disagreeable no insults rule from the CoC.
I have a general feeling that I can't speak the same way that I did on debate.org, without consequence. That freedom of speech was one of the biggest attractors on that site for me.
I've put some hard work into getting the CoC to be less restrictive on that, but if you say it's a fear, it's clearly not enough yet.
I want to say "Your wrong douchebag, and here's why your f'ing wrong" without being blocked by that user. Then later I can re-read that post realize I was a douche, and re-evaluate my opinion in a way I couldn't if a restraining order or something was placed on me and that individual barring him from letting me see and reflect further on his opinions.
I admit my one big complaint about DDO's moderation was that Restraining Orders were nearly impossible to get (the one time I got one, I gently called out the person for violating it, and quickly heard from a mod how me asking them to honor it was itself the true violation of it). At the same time, I had no qualms about losing a member for refusing to make them be given out like candy. They remain a bit of a last resort.
Anyway, thank you for all the feedback!