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@3RU7AL
From the looks of your avatar you are a fan of science fiction.What’s your favorite science fiction movie?
Science is not objective.
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@Paul
Probably the 1995 Terry Gilliam masterpiece "Brazil".
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@3RU7AL
Where did the picture in your avatar come from?
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@ethang5
Frames of reference and the fundamental laws of motion and cover that, you don’t even have to cite Einstein.
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@Paul
True, but I like Einstein.
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@Paul
True, but I like Einstein.
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@ethang5
What you observe is subject to how fast you're moving, what's happening to the space between you and the stars, what is between you and the stars, and both your movements in relation to each other. Someone else, in another time or location, will observe something else.
Those are all objective observations, someone else in another location will observe the same stars, planets etc. Cleetus.
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@ethang5
But, you have no clue what GR says, right Cleetus?Most scientists who read Einstein's general theory of relativity think so.
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@Goldtop
Oops. Got another idiot who doesn't know what general relativity says. Shall we toss him?Those are all objective observations, someone else in another location will observe the same stars, planets etc. Cleetus.
Tell us troll. What is an objective observation?
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@ethang5
That would be you. And I would easily crush you in a debate on GR especially considering you have yet to pass high school math.Got another idiot who doesn't know what general relativity says
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@Goldtop
You're too stupid to waste time debating you. Thanks for the laugh.
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@Goldtop
I will say this, I've been reading ethang's posts for several years and the quality of ethang's comment was an order of magnitude better then what I've seen in the past.
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@ethang5
Me too!
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@3RU7AL
If an alien on another planet looks at the night sky does he see the stars like we do? Of course he does. If his civilization had an equal knowledge to our own they would know that everything is made of extremely small things we call atoms, particles and quarks. They would know math and physics. They would know about moons, planets, nebula, stars, solar systems, galaxies, space and cosmology. They may not have the same names for these things, but all the things we can see would be the same things that they could see. No matter where you are in the universe all the things I mentioned above are the same.
Everything that you observe which takes place outside of yourself and influence is an objective observation. You may not understand what you see or come up with the right answer as to why it behaves the way it does, but you can observe it objectively.
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@Paul
Let me suggest that all observation is subjective but we can apply our reason and logic to those observation to build up a picture of the underlying objective reality.
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@Paul
Ethan's had no choice in the matter, he's already had a week temp ban for his insults and name calling here, so he has no choice but to tone it down. Of course, if he had free reign like he did at ddo, we'd see the same trolling, insults and name calling from him.
Only in your dreams was I banned for a week. You tried by submitting continuous reports, and you failed. Have you given up reporting?
From what I saw, you had a come to Jesus meeting with bsh1 and you saw the light. Too bad he couldn't make you smart.
Only in your dreams was I banned for a week. You tried by submitting continuous reports, and you failed. Have you given up reporting?
From what I saw, you had a come to Jesus meeting with bsh1 and you saw the light. Too bad he couldn't make you smart.
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@ethang5
That just proves you're a coward because you know you'd get your butt handed to you. Coward.You're too stupid to waste time debating you. Thanks for the laugh.
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@Goldtop
And your posts prove you are too stupid to waste time debating.
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@Paul
Where did the picture in your avatar come from?
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@Paul
If an alien on another planet looks at the night sky does he see the stars like we do?
Distant beings will see a much different universe than we currently observe.
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@ethang5
The challenge will remain open to you if you decide to stop being a coward.
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@Goldtop
When you stop being stupid, I will consider it. Till then, my time is too valuable to waste on a bitter troll.
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@ethang5
When you stop being stupid, I will consider it.
No, cowards never consider doing something because they're cowards. If I was so stupid, a debate with me would be a cake walk for you, but of course, looking at your record so far, you lost your one and only debate to the flat earth guy, so it's pretty clear why you won't debate me.
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@Goldtop
It would be. Which is why it isn't worth it. Where is the glory in beating a retard?If I was so stupid, a debate with me would be a cake walk for you,
Plus, my time has value, you are just too stupid to waste it on you in a debate. Your every idiot post proves my point.
Then, prove it, coward. You demonstrate it here and you demonstrate it in the other Science threads, where others can see your cowardice and are calling you out. All you're managing to accomplish is showing how much of a coward you are. Hilarious.It would be.
Plus, my time has value,
Yet, another cowardly lie. If it was so valuable, you wouldn't even be here. So, add lying to cowardice.
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@3RU7AL
That goes for historically also. Earth relationships to the stars have changed over the years, I forget how much the Zodiac today is off like a month or more from some 1000 or so years ago.Distant beings will see a much different universe than we currently observe.
Also our perspective is of stars where in past those people did not know what they were looking at ergo they saw intelligent creatures with a viewpoint * like us looking at us.
They also saw comets and had no idea what they were. They may have saw stars exploding as brightening of a star and have no idea what was happening.
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@mustardness
All excellent points.
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@3RU7AL
So your argument is that aliens on their far far away planet looking at the stars will not see the same constellations we see on earth?