BLM must be stopped

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again, one person out of millions said this. So clearly all of them must be this.... I'm quite certain there are some neo-nazi or KKK republicans. So by your logic, all republicans are neo-nazis and KKK. 
do you understand what i am trying to say? it was  A LEADER, it would be like if Trump endoresed the KKK or was a neo nzai, it is the TOP that determines a movement

You found 1 person out of millions who said they were a marxist. So judging all of them by that is stupid. There are thousands upon thousands of racist/abusive cops. I mean we saw hundreds of videos of police abusing protesters recently. So judging them on a wider scale is certainly warranted because of larger scale of the issue.

Also, police are hired and trained by the government. They need to be held to the highest standards. If some random person in a crowd does something stupid, that is a bad thing. But they do not represent the government. they do not have the power and authority of the government. If police do stupid shit, they do represent the government. They do have that power and authority. They therefore need to be held to a much higher standard of behavior. Which they are not upholding. 
no there are not tens of thousands of racist and bad cops, there a few and thats IT!

police are trained by the government and do a great job 99% of the time, I agree that there is some issues but theres issues in everything, defunidng and shaming them will not work
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no they're fighting so that black people are on an equal standing ground. they're trying to make the outcome equal, always equal.
what? by trying to make police stop beating black people and trying to get black people a decent education? 

this is why there are merit scholarships
so your argument is that dumb rich people should be able to get into any school they want, but talented poor people should have to fight over a tiny number of scholarships that likely still won't be enough to get them through? Really?

and it is completely 100 percent worth it. if i had rioters came to my neighborhood and burned down my house i'd bomb every single one of them.
this is kind of part of the problem. Instead of trying to deal with the issues causing anger and violence, politicans have just dumped more money, guns and tanks onto police in an effort to suppress the angry people. That is a recipe for more and more violence. 

however, if an area has more crimes commited by black people than white people i would trust a white person there more than a black person. 
tons of studies have shown that crime is directly tied to poverty. So when the system suppresses black people and keeps them in poverty, it causes crime. You then blame the black people for that crime. It is a vicious cycle. 

you statement of "no one has ever questioned if white lives matter" is very false, many white people have been persecuted for either how they look, their religion, or the race and background. 
lol you show me the white people in america who are discriminated against for being white. For every case you find there will be dozens of cases of black people being discriminated against. 

i feel my ideology of, "black live matter is a idiotic organization and should be stopped" isn't just my idea, and that many people think this. if they say it though they will most definitely get banned from wherever they said it. if i said "we should stop blm" in my school i would most defniitely get a suspension at the least.
the people who say that are mostly racist assholes. And saying that black people should be banned from fighting for their rights would probably get you suspended from lots of places. But that's because it's just a little bit short of going around in a white hood and burning crosses. 

these people want to enact communism, anarchy, and want to defund the police.
they do not want anarchy or communism. You could probably find some examples that do, but the overwhelming majority don't want that. They do want to defund the police, but that just means taking funding from police and giving it to other services better equipped to handle tasks. For example homelessness. There is no reason police should be handling that. So why are we paying men with guns to handle homelessness? They are not equipped or trained to do that. It is a massive waste of money. 

this police response is laughable, they call in the national guard, yet seeing as these riots are still happening, the national guard has a done a grand total of nothing. all these "heroic" photos circulating around of black people carrying other black people after police have tased them of some shit to the hospital fail to understand that these people are RIOTING ok? do you understand what that means? destruction of private property and general complete anarchy. god knows how much billions in damage that guy who got pepper sprayed has done. if i'm being honest though, the police probably will be defunded. trump hasn't really made a move on the protestors cause if he does he won't get elected for sure, but if these riots continue the police will probably be defunded.
holy shit this whole thing is nuts. The vast majority of the protesters are peaceful. There are some who were violent. Although some of those were white supremacists trying to start shit and blame BLM. 

The police and Trump's shock troops started attacking peaceful protesters. This led to significantly increased violence. Because if the cops are going to attack you, why would you not fight back? Then right wing people point to the violence the police are fueling as evidence the police need to use more violence. It is insane. 
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do you understand what i am trying to say? it was  A LEADER, it would be like if Trump endoresed the KKK or was a neo nzai, it is the TOP that determines a movement
what? BLM is a movement with millions and millions of people in it. 1 of them might be a marxist. That does not say anything at all about the millions of other people. 

no there are not tens of thousands of racist and bad cops, there a few and thats IT!
I saw videos with dozens, if not hundreds, of cops abusing protesters over the last few months. So "a few" is a massive understatement. 

police are trained by the government and do a great job 99% of the time, I agree that there is some issues but theres issues in everything, defunidng and shaming them will not work
why would defunding them not work? You take away the funds that they no longer need because they are doing less tasks. If they stop being sent to do stuff they are not equipped to do, then they don't need anywhere near as much money. 
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81% of black people want the same amount of police or more police. Just want to leave that here.


Getting rid of police officers isn’t popular in America for some reason.
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That's hardly a surprise given the integral role in society they play. 
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That's hardly a surprise given the integral role in society they play. 
Glad to see you don’t support defunding the police!
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81% of black people want the same amount of police or more police. Just want to leave that here.


Getting rid of police officers isn’t popular in America for some reason.
of course not. And almost no one is advocating for getting rid of the police. Defunding and abolishing are not the same thing. 

That's hardly a surprise given the integral role in society they play. 
Glad to see you don’t support defunding the police!
you clearly don'y understand. I don't want to get rid of police either. I do think they should be defunded though. But that means refocusing them on crime and away from things they are not suited for. IE mental health issues, homelessness etc. 

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of course not. And almost no one is advocating for getting rid of the police. Defunding and abolishing are not the same thing. 
I think you misunderstood what black people want. They don’t want less police which is the result of complete defunding as preached by Alexandria Ocasió Cortez, nor do they want a partial defunding of police which reduces the number of police assets on the street. Defunding in any form leads to less police presence which black people don’t want.
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hat? BLM is a movement with millions and millions of people in it. 1 of them might be a marxist. That does not say anything at all about the millions of other people. 
but it is the leader of BLM, not just a random person in the movement

I saw videos with dozens, if not hundreds, of cops abusing protesters over the last few months. So "a few" is a massive understatement. 
they were problaby faked nor provided contet

why would defunding them not work? You take away the funds that they no longer need because they are doing less tasks. If they stop being sent to do stuff they are not equipped to do, then they don't need anywhere near as much money. 
how are they doing less tasks
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I think you misunderstood what black people want. They don’t want less police which is the result of complete defunding as preached by Alexandria Ocasió Cortez, nor do they want a partial defunding of police which reduces the number of police assets on the street. Defunding in any form leads to less police presence which black people don’t want.
again, why? Why do you think that refocusing them onto the tasks they are best equipped for is a bad thing? If they don't have to waste their time harassing homeless people they will have more time to actually do things related to crime. 


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but it is the leader of BLM, not just a random person in the movement
ok, but again, it is just 1 person in a movement of millions. I bet you 90% of BLM supporters and protesters have no idea who that woman is, let alone share her beliefs. 

I saw videos with dozens, if not hundreds, of cops abusing protesters over the last few months. So "a few" is a massive understatement. 
they were problaby faked nor provided contet
that is just pathetic. There are hundreds of videos of police brutality on peaceful protest and your response is to just pretend that reality isn't real. 

why would defunding them not work? You take away the funds that they no longer need because they are doing less tasks. If they stop being sent to do stuff they are not equipped to do, then they don't need anywhere near as much money. 
how are they doing less tasks
things like handling homelessness. There is no reason why police need to be doing that. They aren't equipped for it, they aren't properly trained for it. social workers would be much better equipped to resolve the issue. So it makes no sense to spend millions and millions of dollars sends armed men to fight homelessness. If those resources were refocused on an agency that is better equipped to resolve the problem, we would get much better outcomes. It would also reduce violence, since police are primarily trained how to use force to resolve situations, which in a situation that is not criminal, that is not a good thing. 
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again, why? Why do you think that refocusing them onto the tasks they are best equipped for is a bad thing? If they don't have to waste their time harassing homeless people they will have more time to actually do things related to crime. 
Cause that’s not what black people want. They want the same amount of police presence or more. Defunding means less police presence if not all.
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ok, but again, it is just 1 person in a movement of millions. I bet you 90% of BLM supporters and protesters have no idea who that woman is, let alone share her beliefs. 
but they support it

that is just pathetic. There are hundreds of videos of police brutality on peaceful protest and your response is to just pretend that reality isn't real. 

no there isnt, it seems that way because violent confrontations are blamed on the police

things like handling homelessness. There is no reason why police need to be doing that. They aren't equipped for it, they aren't properly trained for it. social workers would be much better equipped to resolve the issue. So it makes no sense to spend millions and millions of dollars sends armed men to fight homelessness. If those resources were refocused on an agency that is better equipped to resolve the problem, we would get much better outcomes. It would also reduce violence, since police are primarily trained how to use force to resolve situations, which in a situation that is not criminal, that is not a good thing. 
theres a better way to handle poverty than cut the police

social programs dont work
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I think BLM should advocate for ending the war on drugs instead of the socialist racial reparations that they advocate for.
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what? by trying to make police stop beating black people and trying to get black people a decent education? 
what you fail to see is that the black person commited crimes and the police had every legal right to beat them up.
so your argument is that dumb rich people should be able to get into any school they want, but talented poor people should have to fight over a tiny number of scholarships that likely still won't be enough to get them through? Really?
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you do know that you have to have a certain level of intelligence to get into college and have to score high on the SAT's that dems are trying to get rid of right?
tons of studies have shown that crime is directly tied to poverty. So when the system suppresses black people and keeps them in poverty, it causes crime. You then blame the black people for that crime. It is a vicious cycle. 
what's "the system"
lol you show me the white people in america who are discriminated against for being white. For every case you find there will be dozens of cases of black people being discriminated against. 
lmao don't turn your statement around you very obviously said "no one has ever questioned if white lives matter". bunches of white immigrants to america have been discrimnated against.
the people who say that are mostly racist assholes. And saying that black people should be banned from fighting for their rights would probably get you suspended from lots of places. But that's because it's just a little bit short of going around in a white hood and burning crosses. 
yes, saying that i disagree with rioters who might've burnt down my uncle's tea shop will make me a kkk member. how stupid can liberals get.
they do not want anarchy or communism. You could probably find some examples that do, but the overwhelming majority don't want that. They do want to defund the police, but that just means taking funding from police and giving it to other services better equipped to handle tasks. For example homelessness. There is no reason police should be handling that. So why are we paying men with guns to handle homelessness? They are not equipped or trained to do that. It is a massive waste of money. 
no they want complete police reform. defund the current police system and rebuild it so if there are two criminal suspects and one is white and one is black to make sure to always pick the white one cause if they picked the black one (even if the black one was 100 times more likely to have commited the crime) they would be a racist bigot and would get banned and have their house burned down my noble and heroic sjws.
holy shit this whole thing is nuts. The vast majority of the protesters are peaceful. There are some who were violent. Although some of those were white supremacists trying to start shit and blame BLM. 
holy shit this whole thing is nuts. what counts as the vast majority to you? cause the people who aren't the vast majority are mentally unstable rioters who throw rocks and burn down police stations all in the name of "justice" when i bet they don't evne know how to spell justice. white supremacist this white supremacist that, i'm not even white.
The police and Trump's shock troops started attacking peaceful protesters. This led to significantly increased violence. Because if the cops are going to attack you, why would you not fight back? Then right wing people point to the violence the police are fueling as evidence the police need to use more violence. It is insane. 
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