Hello. It’s 1:36AM.
I was busy working on a project and didn’t have enough time to focus on mafia. Gonna do my best to try and catch up
Poker Mafia - DP1
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Press assumed everyone had a role instead of reading. Could it be a slip? I doubt it.
A VTNL sounds like a good strategy on first assumption and looking at rules of the game
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@Speedrace
So none of the cards are the same in each deck? There different combos. Interesting
I can’t come to any solid reads at the moment. Looking at the nature of the game and how this game is going. I see no one that is giving me scum vibes. Anyways I’m a bit tired so I’ll try to look a bit before I tap out
Lol my brain is mesh right now so i can’t comprehend the complexity. I’ll most likely come back to this tommorow
Bearman does have a strange habit of copying other while he's scum, I definitely aaw him do that to me and another in our game as scum together. It doesn't mean he's scum with me if he's doing it again. It's so extremely done that it can't be involuntary.
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@Speedrace
Croc is playing very different to before. When he's town he doesn't give a damn about being scumread and lynched, now suddenyl he's all on guard and trying? Yeah I scumread him hard for that.
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@Speedrace
Press tjought there were roles assigned to us, he deflected it by saying he meant the later-given roles in the OP but I really think he slipped.
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@PressF4Respect
Croc or you.
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@oromagi
You lost track on vc? To you as town this game is 100% tryaclable but now you suddenly lost count for your magic powers? Maybe you care too little about it as you're mafia. Maybe that's why suddenly you want us to avoid lynching. Maybe not.
When vearman was scum he tried waaaaay less to anseer people's interrogation auestions here he's actually stepping up to the plate even if he somehow mimics others at times. Tbh idk where the mimicking is, I just see the accusation.
This is evwn more in the direction he was in last game as town, here he's trying even harder as he began to as that game progressed. I townread Bearman as I townread Cookie last game. Bearman is solid town. He's asking very good questions in the last few pages and showing serious concern over town's victimisation if game mechanics go wrong.
Bearman is town. The rest idk, maybe speedrace is town too but he'd be a good scum player based on him being very self-aware.
I scumread Pie's friendly attitude a lot. He's never happy whole yown to my knowledge. Croc and Press both scummy.
I scumread Pie's friendly attitude a lot. He's never happy whole yown to my knowledge. Croc and Press both scummy.
Official Vote Count
VTNL(2/6) - Press, bear,
Supa (1/6) - oro,
Supa (1/6) - oro,
Croc (1/6) - RM,
Bear (1/6) - Disc,
Not voting: SupaDudz, warren, Crocodile, Speed, pie,
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@Discipulus_Didicit
When a person dies do we get to see what cards (and thus what roles) they had each night?
no
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@Speedrace
I think you read it wrong. Inactivity is a bad reason to lynch. Lurking is a ok reason to lynch.
Last time RM and bear were Mafia, they were solely focused on themselves and defending themselves. It literallly seems the exact same way now lol.
supa was online 4 hours ago
unvote vtl supa
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@Discipulus_Didicit
supa was online 4 hours ago
wait did he not post at all?
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@Crocodile
Last time RM and bear were Mafia, they were solely focused on themselves and defending themselves. It literallly seems the exact same way now lol.
Are you ignoring the last few pages where you were scumslipping so hard? It seems that you and Speed are doing the exact same thing.
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@Crocodile
I'm not sure what you're saying. I'm not solely focused on him and I DID NOT townread bearman significantly in that game. You were the one who paired us.
Also when Crocodile was being lynched, he simply stayed stone-faced wgen he was town. Here he's actually fighting it and then saying 'lol' which contradicts itself as he's both displaying fear and yet laughing casually.
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@RationalMadman
Croc is playing very different to before. When he's town he doesn't give a damn about being scumread and lynched, now suddenyl he's all on guard and trying? Yeah I scumread him hard for that.
That makes way more sense. I think we do a Croc lynch and Bear kill if Croc is innocent
I'm ok with a Supa kill for lurking but I don't think Press is scum at all. We shouldn't lynch people for not understanding the rules
Last time RM and bear were Mafia, they were solely focused on themselves and defending themselves. It literallly seems the exact same way now lol.
I'm not sure about Bear, but RM does that in every game regardless of affiliation
Bear has seemed to be much more active though, I just don't remember if he's more active scum or town
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@Crocodile
Above
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@Speedrace
It's good that you agree. I think we should spend the entire DP1 gathering information rather than cut it short by lynching.
Strong Townreads
- RM - without a doubt a very active and helpful member for the town (as he always is).
- Bearman - explained.
- Speedrace - can explain if needed, basically just consistently good posts and high activity level
Weak Townreads
- SupaDudz (he always plays this way as town, I've seen it before but I admit ignorance to knowing the nuances that imply he's scum as I have not personally been in a game with his scumplay and so haven't truly 'perceived' it as it went along rather only in hindsight if I took the time to reread a game of his in detail where he's scum).
- Disc-Did - Just vibes from his effort and posts. Why would he be so aggro as mafia? Mafia are not bloodthirsty in this setup, they are defensive (like usually town is but this game has reversed who is the prey vs predator especially as Joker is there day 1 in the flop).
Null
I actually don't nullread anyone in this game because I both have gained more knowledge about each player from the 2 I just played and also this game seems to be forcing people to talk more and engage others for reads (rather than calmly rely on PRs or dominant personalities to lead like usual).
Weak Scumreads
- Warren42- https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4499/post-links/186090 This post, combined with his first 'humorous' one, show me that he is experiencing a level of frustration that he's masking as pseudo-joy towards the fact that town has been lucky as all hell to have a Joker in the flop on Day Phase 1. If I were scum, I'd be very stressed about that too as it means all the town can comfortably bet and get power roles that night phase.
- Oromagi - strangely unattentive to the details of the game structure or nitpicking about logic like he usually is. His laidback demeanour is nothing at all like his usual town demeanour but what is true is that this setup itself would frustrate and bore a player like Oromagi, who relies heavily on knowing the concrete structure and analysing it in order to then pivot his reads. He could be town, just leans scum.
- ILikePie5 - Demeanour totally different to usual, mafia is the defensive/prey team in this game unike usual so the friendliness goes hand in hand with that.
Strong Scumreads
Press and Croc, already explained why. The strength comes from how significant what I've read or spotted as a slip from them is, not from the 'amount' but Croc does actually have many things on top of a strong few things implying he's mafia. His temperament is so severely different to usual.
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@RationalMadman
my gameplay in the last 2 games were extremely anti town.
i want to be more helpful and improve my gameplay so I won't be recognized as a noob.
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@Crocodile
while it's possible, you showed absolutely 0 signficant more effort or improvement in the game before this one vs the one 2 games ago. You basically shrugged your shoulders when pressure was put on you Day 2 of that game and hardly tried to portray a very town vibe while claiming a significant character like Thanos.
In this game you are trying hard, very alert to each thing. It seems that some people in the mafia chat told you not to fuck around and you maybe only try hard when you feel you want to do your partners proud as their suffering at your incompetence is far more apparent to you.
It's true town is also a team but it's much easier to forget that when you don't talk to others about the game in a group chat of sorts.
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@RationalMadman
Idk, but I think that that drastic of a change has to come from some other source than "trying to improve". His play is completely different. If we have to decide, I fully support an NK or lynching of Crocodile.
DISCUSSION: Should we NK or Lynch Croc?