MCU Villains Mafia - DP1

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Many reasons. Tbe theme solit, which I did mention since your last visit, is that if they earned their power vs just being spoonfed it, they're townier. This is my initial read.

The alternative is going to reveal my role so I'll keep it to myself.

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Oh no, I didn't "suddenly go back to scumreading" you. I was just busy dealing with your cheerleader Warren.
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Thsi game reminds em why I quit mafia.

Gou can be a god tier player at it but the crowd and thug mentality drag away any enjoyment.

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Nope, you were questioning me too and were satisfied by my answers untim a random spur of the moment change of mind.

There is power in being the d1 lynch, there's a lot of gameplay left for them to trust my reads and make you cave in, scum. ;)

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Apparently, it was mod confirmed there was no theme split. 
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That's just because we're all villains.
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RM

You are at -1.  ROLE claim and if it is bad for town, Pie and I will have that our consciences.
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TOWN
SupaDudz
ILikePie5
User_2006
Crocodile
WaterPhoenix
PressF4Respect
warren42
LittleCookie08
RationalMadman                              Ultron
Bearman
SCUM

UVC

RationalMadman - SupaDudz,  Oro, Pie, Bear, PressF (5/6)
PressF4Respect - RationalMadman, Warren (2/6)


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So is there a character-affiliation connection?
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More so a role one but yes, I did just explain what I think the link is.
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I'm voting you, not Press.
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No, you see, because RM knows Speed better than Speed knows Speed. When Speed said there is no theme split, what he really meant was that there is a theme split, namely the one suggested by RM ("good" villains vs. villains vs. "third-party" villains), according to RM.
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No. I want to die here and have tiwn sheeo my reads. I will get respect whether it requires a game-death or not. I will not succumb to blackmail.
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I did just explain what I think the link is
post #?
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Not good villains at all. Self-sufficient villains vs granted-power villains.
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Self-sufficient villains vs granted-power villains.
And how do you know this split?

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Also just after I outed as Ultron.

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Never said I knew it.
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which post? i might just be blind
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No I read 136, which is the fucking problem. You say "You went in on Oro and User." Let's see what you consider "going in on"
  • User
    • "Why is crocodile probably town?"
    • "What makes you think RM is too hard to read? After all we are only like an hour into the day."
Why ask him a specific question about a specific thing he said if you don't plan on ripping into him further? This just seems like you trying to get an inexperienced player to slip up and then wagon them.
No, that's you putting words in my mouth. He literally gave one read then said someone else is too hard to read and I asked him why. The opposite is to just not give any reason for reads and allow him to give up on trying to read RM. I wanted reasons so that I could understand his thought process. That's how this game works. This is ridiculous that you think I "went in on him" for this and I think you'd be hard pressed (ha) to find anyone who agrees that I was trying to set him up for asking him to substantiate his reads?


Man. I sure did "go in on" him. Asking him two questions about his reads. Sure was harsh. Maybe the mods should ban me for how hard I went in on him. I can't believe I was so terribly rude to him.
Strawman.
Just cause you can use a word doesn't mean you should. Was I exaggerating a bit? Yes. Did I misrepresent your argument? No. You said I "went in on him" and all I did was ask him two incredibly simple questions.
After that I can't imagine the harsh things I said to oro...
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    • "Oro said he "probably" wasn't vanilla in a game where speed explicitly stated in signups there were no vanillas. That's legitimately suspicious."
Oh wow, casting suspicion on someone for a post they made. How nefarious!
You tried to put a role into Oro's mouth based off of the softclaim he made and scumread him based off of that. Yeah...
His softclaim was essentially "probably not vanilla" and I took issue with him saying probably in a game where it's confirmed there are no vanillas. Didn't put a role in his mouth.
Weird way to admit that you aren't reading the thread... #95
When I said "where", I was looking for a post number. In #95 you just said "SEE YOU DID IT AGAIN". I explained it in #136, which you ignored half of and twisted the other.
Even weirder to double down and admit you didn't bother reading beyond the first sentence of that post...

  • In an effort to not make this super long I removed a bunch of posts that were like "yeah you said that his thought process was good but why was it good"
This is a fine question to ask but it's very different than what you had been saying, which was that I hadn't given any other reasons. It's in large part because I think that the paranoia about a third party probably comes from town, mafia doesn't waste time going down that rabbit hole because the existence of a third party doesn't matter as much to them. Mafia has to kill the third party the same way they have to kill town. Also, all the mod psych seems overly critical and comes from a town POV because if he's mafia, there's no reason to bother bringing that up. You take that there's no clear split for granted and move on, not delve into how you think there's a secret theme that the mod made subconsciously.

It would probably be too much to ask for a claim, since I guess you are going to blatantly refuse and lash out at others, just like RM.
And then this is just blatantly being a dick for no reason. Super cool, love playing with people who are rude just because they can be.
Saying that it would be too much to ask for a claim is "being a dick for no reason"? What?
You accused me, without any sort of reason, as being likely to blatantly refuse and lash out. That's an attack on me personally by saying I'd lash out. That's being a dick for no reason, because you have no reason to think I'd behave that way.

If I asked you for a claim, would you claim? My guess is no but you can prove me wrong.
Right now? Absolutely not. Blindly claiming without pressure is not good. If I have a good role then mafia knows to target me. If I have a weak role then mafia knows not to target me. You should only claim day 1 if you're under pressure. You pushing for me to claim when I don't have any votes, literally not even you, is blatant role fishing. It's also an even more obvious example of you trying to make me look like scum without putting your money where your mouth is and voting for me.
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nvm disregard that
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fix'd

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TOWN
SupaDudz
ILikePie5
User_2006
Crocodile
WaterPhoenix
PressF4Respect
warren42
LittleCookie08
RationalMadman                              Ultron
Bearman
SCUM

UVC

RationalMadman - SupaDudz,  Oro, Pie, Bear, PressF (5/6)
PressF4Respect -  Warren (1/6)
Oromagi- RM (1/6)

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Ok, you said oro was probably third party at first, how did you know that?
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I already clarified how/why several times. Read.
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Once I flip town, please, in this order blackmail the followiwng players to fullclaim as they did to me:

  1. PressF4Respect
  2. Oromagi
  3. Bearman
  4. Ilikepie5
You will win if you do this. I guarantee it. Stick to that order.

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You can't touch this
You can't touch this
You can't touch this
You can't touch this
My, my, my my music hits me so hard
Makes me say, "Oh my Lord"
Thank you for blessin' me
With a mind to rhyme and two hype feet
It feels good, when you know you're down
A super dope homeboy from the Oaktown
And I'm known as such
And this is a beat, uh, you can't touch
I told you homeboy (You can't touch this)
Yeah, that's how we livin' and ya know (You can't touch this)
Look in my eyes, man (You can't touch this)
Yo, let me bust the funky lyrics (You can't touch this)
Fresh new kicks, and pants
You gotta like that, now you know you wanna dance
So move outta yo seat
And get a fly girl and catch this beat
While it's rollin', hold on!
Pump a little bit and let 'em know it's goin' on
Like that, like that
Cold on a mission, so fall on back
Let 'em know, that you're too much
And this is a beat, uh, they can't touch
Yo, I told you (you can't touch this)
Why you standin' there, man? (You can't touch this)
Yo, sound the bell, school's in, sucka (You can't touch this)
Give me a song, or rhythm
Makin' 'em sweat, that's what I'm givin' 'em
Now, they know
You talkin' 'bout the Hammer, you're talkin' 'bout a show
That's hyped, and tight
Singers are sweatin', so pass them a wipe
Or a tape, to learn
What's it gonna take in the 90's to burn
The charts? Legit
Either work hard or you might as well quit
That's word because you know (You can't touch this)
(You can't touch this)
Break it down!

Stop, Hammer time!  

VTL RM


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Do not show them mercy, do not at all reason with them.
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Jesus Christ this is such a bad lynch
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Mafia has a stronggarm, i am a flavoured bulletproof whose role description made it clear that only a telekinesist or strongman could kill me. Good luck town. Remember my townreads.
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Jesus Christ this is such a bad lynch
He asked for it.