13 Reasons Why Mafia DP2

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If bearman is scum why did he unvote Croc day one? I don't understand this situation at all. I would like others to speak.
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Fixed sorry bout that
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1. Speedrace
(Lean town)
He was inactive, which made him suspicious. But he changed his ways and looks more townie as of now. This is partly because of his pressure against Crocodile, and his determined focus to lynch, which in my mind would help us.
2.PressF4Respect
(Lean town)
One of the biggest contributors to the game. Has provided very helpful insights for the entire day phase one. 
3. RationalMadman
(Lean Town)
Tony Padilla doesn't really make sense as watcher. Is a bit suspicious in DP 2, but seemed townie in DP 1.
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Yeah that's ok. Tbh I was thinking about leaving it like that for the lolz.
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1. Speedrace
(Lean town)
He was inactive, which made him suspicious. But he changed his ways and looks more townie as of now. This is partly because of his pressure against Crocodile, and his determined focus to lynch, which in my mind would help us.
2.PressF4Respect
(Lean town)
One of the biggest contributors to the game. Has provided very helpful insights for the entire day phase one. 
3. RationalMadman
(Lean Town)
Tony Padilla doesn't really make sense as watcher. Is a bit suspicious in DP 2, but seemed townie in DP 1.
Literally still extremely vague
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@BearMan
Tony Padilla had video tapes with evidence on it regarding horrible events that happened to Hannah.

It is strongly made clear in my role PM that he only revealed the evidence once she doed and that is the sentence before he tellse that I  the 2x watcher


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@Crocodile
If I was scum with Bearman would I not give more detailed reads to out than that? He didn't eben mention that Press was unccd Miller.
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One of the biggest contributors to the game. Has provided very helpful insights for the entire day phase one. 
Please elaborate.

but seemed townie in DP 1.
Also please elaborate.
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I think Crocodile and Press4 are both town. 
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Thoughts?
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I beg you to unvote me until all have spoken. I would like to ask some questions.
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If you’re going to ask them, ask.
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READS
Crocodile

TOWN
Press
Supa
Speed
Cookie
User
Simply
Water
NEUTRAL/CENTERED
Warren
Oro
SCUM
RM
Bear

Look at yours, before looking at mine

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Alright, keep your secrets then. 
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@PressF4Respect
No. I need pressure off. Right now, it's a waiting game for mafia. They're waiting for the right opportunity to pounce and snap tbe hammer on me. Supa is really the role he says he is and after researching his character more, it does make much more sense that he's townsided than scumsided. I need him to unvote me badly so that I can ask things. Right now, I need to understand whether mafia no-killed or croc saved, there's ways I canake mafia slip answers if I am not the one entirely at their mercy. Right now, they can lurk quietly and just go 'yeah vtl RM' in more words and get me lynched while revealimg nothing.


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This might be my first actual helpful comment here. I have seen people categorizing me as not helpful. 

1. According to my NP action in Np1, Crocodile did something to press. Since Press was revealed to be a miller aligned town, that would mean Crocodile is either a scum having a role usually seen on Town players, or both are town. 

Some evidence supports the latter and some don't. I don't know if I can physically push the discussion forward, but I can motivate people to do that because some of y'all are much better than me at doing so. 

I think Bear is scum and I don't know about Oro or RM. 
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Wait nvm I had just seen Bear's post that he is town, but he might be lying. 

Suppose he is not lying, that would probably mean Crocodile is scum. Either Bear or Crocodile. We'll see. 

I am not Vtling because I am simply less than 50% sure. 
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More than that, LittleCookie and Warren could be both sent scum roles and we could be just unnecessarily feuding. However, the chance for that is very low and I am pretty sure at least one scum is active.


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Why do you exactly need Supa to unvote you before you can ask things?
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You aren’t exactly in danger of being lynched right now, and it would be very clear if someone was lurking and sheeping .
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VTL Rationalmadman

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@User_2006
Are you a tracker?
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If user is a town tracker, I see no reason why RM would therefore also not be town
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Yeah, I am not drunk, nor am I old enough yet to get drunk. I really voted to L RM, and I really voted to L RM. 

Based on my incomplete observations, Supa is probably lean-town, and if RM is so desperate about clearing one's vote before saying anything really useful, he might be scheming utter lies. Town players who are just honest probably wouldn't act like this. 
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@Speedrace
Guess. What you believe, what you believe. 
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I am absolutely begging supa or speed to unvote as they've claimed things that eother I knoe are true (supa) or fit completely with my role (speed). The others are potential scum so I don't know what to say to dissuade them. I am in extreme danger of being lynched and want others to speak. Specifically Oromagi, WP and LittleCookie. Once all confirm that they have no idea what happened last night, I then will begin questioning based on their confirmed lack of information, otherwise natural reads will ensue without my questioning. User voted me just now but why? I am unccd Tony, the 2x watcher.
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@Speedrace
Where did User claim? 
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Wait speed isn't voting me?
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Okay, here is my deduction so far.

Supa is absolutely his claim, I am mine and speed is his roleclaim (char not claimed). Press didn't bw me here nor has he in any way scumtold today, thus I still firmly believe his claim. I actually secretly was skeptical as I am a watcher so I thought why is there a miller when the investigative role isn't a cop? I hid this question the entire d1 and vanilla-told on purpose throughout to remain alive for today. I know what I am doing, though I admit right now I have ended up framed and in deep shit.

I need Oromagi, WP and cookie to speak before truly deducing who is scum or not im the others. Everything depends on them saying if they had any idea why noone died last night.
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There is absolutely no pro-town reason to rush this lynch on me from any of your perspectives. Please unvote me solely to allow me to expose things, if I fail to go ahead and lynch me. I guarantee you that once the others have spoken, I can poke holes. I need them to speak, it is essential.