US States Mafia DP3

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@Vaarka
Eh mods afk...im sure its buddha/hammer.

VTL BUDDHA
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Holy shit, Vaarka, if you lose this game for us I'm gonna be pissed. Ethan literally townread Danielle on DP1 before Danielle made any posts. Am I insane? Am I completely missing something? There's no reason for the DP to be taking this long, or to be going in this direction.     
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@Vaarka
See post above
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@TheHammer
there is no way in hell vaarka/pie are scum and you/buddha are last 2 town
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@Greyparrot
I don't think Vaarka and Pie are scum. I think you and Pie are scum.
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I've made my position clear before, I have no idea how you could've misinterpreted that on accident
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gotta say scumteam really boofed this day phase up bad the way these votes are cast...there's no way in hell that buddha/hammer are not some sort of team because a 2/3 vote on a lylo. Gottta say that to leave that up for so long for me to catch was a dumb scumplay.
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@Vaarka
Vaarka just vote buddha...the game should be an easy town win.
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@Greyparrot
Gotta say you shouldn't even be posting because you shouldn't and arent yet in the game. I'm already done with it. 5 day DP when every other one has been 3. 

We had zero PR's. Purposely eliminated both you and Drafter because we realized it would coast us to an easy no lynch. And oh no, let's just replace you back in so town can actually reach a consensus.

Noob ass mods rigging games against mafia cause they suck as town and don't realize forum mafia already advantages town because it's extended and recorded 😂. 

Good game. Nice scum read on me DP1 👏👏. 
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@Buddamoose
GG well played buddha
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@Buddamoose
The freekin mod swapped me in and wouldn't tell me my role lol.....had to assume it was still vanilla from earlier claim.
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Yeah this game fell apart. I get that he didn't like seeing his game have no activity near the end, but there's no reason to extend the DP (by two days, mind you) when fewer people are around than before. Replacing people from within the game is also something that shouldn't really ever be done, but it's been SOP on DDO for years so that's a little more forgivable.

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@TheHammer
I'm sure Buddha didn't wanna see me again :D

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@Greyparrot
Neither of us did. He told us you were replacing in ahead of time and we both spammed the mafia chat and DART chat telling him not to. It didn't work.
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Wait so it was Hammer and Budda? 

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I don't think the replacement policy is objectionable. Otherwise Mafia just has to kill the active players and auto-win every game. As much as I would like to enforce activity requirements, we literally couldn't have viable mafia here without a replacement policy. Yeah, ideally, people that can't commit or are unwilling to play and be active shouldn't, but until that happens we need something to compensate.

I didn't realize he extended the DP out, which I don't agree with.
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@drafterman
Replacing in players that the mafia killed is definitely objectionable. I don't do it in my games, and I try my hardest to avoid replacing in lynched townies.

Mafia isn't all about the mechanics and machinery behind the game. If the mafia wants to NK someone because that person might catch them, that should be their right and that person shouldn't be allowed to rejoin the game.
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@TheHammer
Ideally, I agree, but I just don't see that as feasible given the current inactivity of players. Might as well just not do Mafia.
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@drafterman
You can replace in lynched players, or people that weren't in the game in the first place.

But it wasn't just the replacements that were an issue. It was also that the DP got extended by two days for no reason. That's explicitly favoring town when three days should be plenty of time for them to get a lynch together.
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No I think it is reasonable. I extended DP bc it's the weekend and most people won't be on that long. It isn't bastardizing the game. It's Ethans role he got and stepped into. 
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@Vader
Games already over supa.
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Oh shoot rlly I am stupid, who got lynched

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THE DP is over, Budda was lynched, he's guilty.

Submit any night actions soon
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Ill post endgame
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@Vader
It was over within minutes of subbing me back in lol.....that's why people be mad