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Croc (6/7) - Simply, Press, Speed, Supa, Bear, Croc
Warren (2/7) - Oromagi, RM
Speedrace (1/7) - User
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I interested in that noone hmered Croc out of those left to vote. All who didn't hammer have increased towncred in my eyes, though it's minimsied as this wasn't lylo or mylo
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@Crocodile
unvote yourself or I will argue to all future casters to not have a gamethrower in their cast if you sign up. This is just pure and utter nonsense what you're doing, at least be the sacrifice.
And if I get reported for that threat or it becomes OGI I don't care. When OGI is telling you that you are breaking rules and there'll be consequences, that OGI is fine in mafia so long as it's not a threat to report. You won't be reported, you will be exposed as a gamethrower. You're voting yourself as uncc'd Ani/Doc and this is game over if you let them have a free-range nightkill on top.
OGI = outside game influence
You're self-voting as doc when you literally have no reason to other than to hurt town.
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@RationalMadman
i very highly doubt that he's doctor, look at that char explanation. that was the least coherent english ive read in my life.
when I said 'at least be the sacrifice' just now, I meant night 1 not day 1.
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@WaterPhoenix
you are now scumtelling but ofc you are still townier than all other on that bandwagon (even more than press who is mainly towny due to his claim, overall).
Ani's description match perfectly to doc/nurse. If I am in Pie's shoes, I assign her the protective role or 1 other char (but I won't reveal who that is). Since no one is cc'ing we're either lynching the actual doctor in Warren, or the actual doctor in Croc. Ofc inactivity is part of why a CC may not have happened.
If anyone returns and hammers this, they are undeniably scumsided, even if this is scum. What reasoning is there to hammer Croc over Warren?
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@RationalMadman
But, you are an important person in keeping secrets and are trustworthy with your friends. You are the police in case crime comes. You are the Doctor.
I put out fires if they spring up or some shit like that. I keep secrets and shit like that. I'm the doctor.
Maybe I'm missing something, but how does "I keep secrets", "you are the police in case crime comes", and "I put out fires if they spring up or some shit like that" relate to the role of doctor?
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@Speedrace
--> @oromagiYou're DRASTICALLY exaggerating how smart Mafia is. I've never seen a team edit each other's posts or even to over what they'll say. By your theory, Supa would never be scum with all of his dumb gambits because his teammates would always caution him against them, but that's clearly not true. 1. Croc never ran his ideas past the other scum or 2. He did and when they said no, he did it anyway. I think 1 is much more likely but either way, Mafia is not infallible because they can carefully think over the stuff they do
This from the guy with a something like a 5 game streak as scum. I can't speak to your gameplay experiences but mine as mafia are generally highly collaborative. Supa is a classic example to me- I always think he's scum and the one time I didn't think he was scum he was scum with you, right? I am not confident that croc is doc but I do think the odds that he's doc is much better than the odds he's scum. When people make bad choices in this game my observation is that they are way more often town than scum (after accounting for the population difference)
I'm not saying you must be wrong but I do think you are underestimating the power of collaboration here
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@Speedrace
Is anyone else's justification that weak? 😂😂 because that's WEAK
ive already said so
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@oromagi
Just to ask again, you think people making scumslips means they look more town?
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@RationalMadman
Lynching warren is the same as policy lynching an inactive. Forgive me cause I haven't watched the show, but looking on the wiki and based on speed's opinion, Ani has absolutely nothing to do with a doctor. Croc's explanation for her being doc is makes his case even worse. You say that you can only see pie assigning her and one other character doc, i dont care about the other char, please tell me how Ani would be doctor.
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@Crocodile
VTL Croc.
It is hard not to credit you for this lynch, whatever the result.
by the way, oromagi and speedrace are on opposite teams no matter what at this point based on interactions and my reads. Oromagi as scum makes speedrace town due to how the bandwagon building on speedrace played out and how he really tried to shift blame on me for it. Speedrace as scum makes Oromagi town because he'd never defend his scumbuddy so obviously and on top of that why did speedrace not do more, Oromagi surely would coach him better how to have spoken and acted.
If both are town (on top of myself, Croc and Pie) then my townreads on SBO and WP are way off and I don't believe that they are.
The only team where I am wrong and also my reads are accurate is Bearman, LittleCookie and Warren.
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@WaterPhoenix
She has more to do with a nurse role than a doctor role, nurses roleblock when they save. This also makes sense about why he was keen to out as nurses can't safely save the PR since they roleblock when they save.
Idk if he's doc or if he is nurse who gambled on there being no doc when outing but that's a safe gamble to make in my eyes. Either way Ani is the saver, there's only one other char who could be but I doubt they are the doc. I don't want to reveal cast details as it helps mafia slip with fakeclaims.
Oromagi
SupaDudz
Speedrace
LittleCookie
RationalMadman
AWOL
9. Warren
SCUM
UNOFFICIAL VOTE COUNT
Croc (6/7) - Simply, Press, Speed, Supa, Bear, Croc
Warren (2/7) - Oromagi, RM
Speedrace (1/7) - User
The only team where I am wrong and also my reads are accurate is Bearman, LittleCookie and Warren.
Sorry, Supadudz is in the mix too. I just genuinely forgot.
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@oromagi
I might've agreed with you a few pages ago, but everything with his justification is simply ridiculous. And it's not even that the justification is bad, but the fact that there are multiple versions of it is the biggest scum tell for me
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@ILikePie5
Pie-
pls don't mistake post #645 as a vote from me. I was quoting croc and should have thought more about how that would look.
Actually UNVOTE
I have reviewed the details and I have decided that it will be too risky to lynch a supposed power role. Though Croc may seem scummy, it is too risky if he is doctor.
sorry nurses on mafiascum dont roleblock when they save, it just is a weaker chance of saving. I am thinking of epicmafia.
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@BearMan
Please lynch Warren, we need to begin narrowing down things in the others, even if he flips town we gain information and it is useless to NL here if he's scum in my opinion.
If we NL literally nothing at all is gained since investigations can falsely vindicate, as implied by the miller role.
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@RationalMadman
No, but like lore wise, how is she be a doctor, I've never watched the show and the wiki isn't being helpful.
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@BearMan
By that logic, Mafia should always claim doctor to never have suspicion on them
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@RationalMadman
@oromagi
Ok, neither of you have responded to my questions (640 for RM, 643 for Oro). Please do so.
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@Speedrace
@WaterPhoenix
Her mother works for the Walker family as a nurse for Bryce's grandfather, who was slowly dying.
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@PressF4Respect
It is not important to know how Pie thinks, this is something others became obsessed with. Pie's reasoning for Ani being doctor is the least important part of the puzzle. The answer to you is that it doesn't matter and I don't know.
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@PressF4Respect
--> @oromagiJust to ask again, you think people making scumslips means they look more town?
more like most stupid stuff is not a scum slip
croc's unforced declarations are (probably) bad play but they aren't a scum slip.
croc voting for himself twice is (probably) bad play but that's not a scum slip
a scum slip is a message typed in the forum that was intended for the mafia chat
something like " I think you should do the kill tonight" or
"do you want me to pick a fight with Press?"
sometimes stupid game play might indicate mafia but my experience (note that Speed disagrees & Speed is a much better player than I am) is that most stupidity is town and that the mafia chat serves as a check vs very bad game play. So, yes most bad game play is more likely to be town.