What vandalism or burning occurred during that protest? Also, there was a 7 PM curfew in place. Had the officers escorted them after the curfew, this point would be more valid. But they didn't.
They were attacking police officers with bottles full of unknown liquids. The officer were asked them to back up because of the curfew half an hour prior. It’s foolish to think those who wouldn't back up would magically go home after the curfew came.
Ok, then stop the "chaos during the night", not the "peace during the day".
So the cops should sit there and do nothing until the church gets vandalized and looted again? Good idea!
How do you know they were going to do something? Were you there at the rally? Can you read their minds? Did they say anything about doing stuff? If you claim that they were going to do stuff, then you need to prove it.
They were throwing bottles of unknown liquids at police officers and that’s what happened the night before. It wasn’t peaceful at that point. If they didn’t throw bottles and stuff at police officers I’d say there was no threat, but they did...
Again, what property was at risk?
Saint John’s Catedral, Lafayette Park
So you acknowledge the fact that Barr gave the order, and thus lied about not giving the order? Good. I'm glad we got that over with.
Lmao, your two “anonymous” officials lack any sort of credibility unless we know who they are. And plus you’re intentionally being misleading by saying he didn’t give the order. He didn’t give the tactical order. He said “get it done.” And the Park Officials/Guard gave the tactical order to do so.
So the federal guard was so inept that they delayed the order for at least 6 hours?
Welcome to the bureaucracy of Washington D.C.
Read the part I cited in my last post carefully.
I think you need to reread all of your sources that you have used. Both Fauxlaw and I have pointed out your contradictory sources.
This might be of interest:
Lafayette Park and Saint Johns Catedral fall under the authority of the US Park Service. So no, they weren’t on the streets. They were moved to the streets after they refused to do so.
If we go with your definition of violent, then it is impossible to have peaceful protests while there are right-wing boogaloo provocateurs who specifically wish to sabotage every single one of them.
Not true. If your goal is to be peaceful, you hand the person over to the police. You do everything in your power to keep it peaceful. I didn’t see people bring the culprits forward.
What federal property was harmed during this specific protest?
This is irrelevant considering the actions of the previous night. I’ve said multiple times, if the actions of the previous night didn’t happen and people weren’t throwing water bottles, I would support your cause. As soon as they started throwing water bottles like the night before, there was an immediate threat to both the police officers and Lafayette Park/ St. John’s Catedral.
When did the protesters of the 6 PM demonstration vandalize anything?
Jeez Louise, it’s a preventative measure. After the actions of the previous night there was a threat to public safety. If they got a permit BLM would be held legally accountable if something did happened. But since they didn’t and there was a credible threat, police moved them out.
I never said that it was true just because a member of the media said it.
You’re literally parroting media talking points, but ok.
How do you know they were lying in this instance? Do you have any counterevidence to what they presented? For that matter, do you even have anything suggesting that they were lying?
If it’s fits their narrative, why wouldn’t they lie? People like you are going to believe them like gospel. If they say Orangeman bad because of this this and this you’re going to believe them without question. I however choose to analyze sources. Question it’s move. They posted something false in the article, why wouldn’t there me more, because they’re clearly biased against Trump. Bias implies an agenda.
Which one? The one where armed quasi-terrorists stormed Michigan's Capitol because they couldn't accept the state's measures to protect the general populace from COVID-19? Because that certainly didn't scream peaceful.
Lmao, they’re the terrorists? Are they the ones burning stuff down? Are they ones looting? Are they the ones burning? Are they the ones killing? Conservative protests were peaceful. Did police ever use tear gas, or rubber bullets, or anything of the like once? No, because the protests were peaceful. Just cause they have guns doesnt mean they aren’t peaceful. You have lost all credibility by saying these protests weren’t peaceful.
Was there a group of far-right saboteurs who publicly stated that they were hellbent on turning his protests violent?
Did MLK advocate for non-violence. Did MLK condemn the violence some African American groups were committing? Show me one time where a protest lead by MLK became violent.
Pretty hard to do when you don't have them in your hands.
Wym? They’re all right next to each other. If they wanted to they could’ve handed him over to the police. Oh wait, they didn’t.
Then what about the vast, vast majority of people there who intended to demonstrate peacefully? What should they do?
Back up at the warnings of police officers? Hand over bad actors to the police. Don’t stay in a protest that has violence?
Also, once again, how do you know the two groups (the one at the night protest and the one at the 6 PM demonstration) are the same?
Cause they were being violent by throwing water bottles. That’s how it started the night before.
Even if (and that's a big if) it were true that the peaceful protesters in every other city were also the ones at the night riots, it still wouldn't prove it for this case.
Why not? It happened in D.C. the night prior as well. If we didn’t learn from history, we wouldn’t be here today.
What actual damage was there?
Police officers getting assaulted. Plus it was a preventative measure to protect federal property based on the events of the night prior. Unless you defend that Ofc and say the police shouldn’t have done anything to ensure it was safe.
