Star Control Mafia DP THREE

Lynched last DP:

Nobody

Died in the night:

Ragnar: You are the Arilou and your ship class is the Skiff. Not much is known to outsiders about your race other than the fact that you revealed yourselves to the Alliance of Free Stars and insisted on being granted membership shortly after the Humans joined during the Ur-Quan Slave War. It is later revealed that you have had a special interest and possibly a guiding hand in the development of the Humans as a species for many centuries. Because of this you are the Watcher. Once per night you may choose a player to target. If your action is successful you will be given a list of players that visited your target that night. You win with the Town.

Graveyard:

User - Yehat - 1x Bulletproof - Town

Pie - Ur-Quan Kzer-Za - Jailkeeper - Town

Warren42 - Spathi - Hider - Town

Why?

Also I am Supox, ship class Blade. I'm vanilla. Everyone should be claiming

So with Ragnar dead I think we genuinely need to do a read. I think after the death of Ragnar, Oro could be a legit scum. I HIGHLY doubt there are any more power roles in the game since Ragnar was a watcher. We have a x2 protector, investigative, and hider, and potentially a suicide bomber consider Press’s hidden role claim and from my great knowledge in history

My top scum reads are either Press or Oro at this point. I lean Press due to his hiding claim and trying to make people figure out his role, which takes time and effort to do. I think his behavior has been neutral overall looking at it logically. I think it’s some scummy stuff overall and a lot of fluff. I think fluff could be a strong indication of scum at this point considering activity.

I am leaning on Press, but I’d like to hear others opinions 

With that I want to hear what the rest of town thinks. More importantly Oromagi, Speedrace, and Cookie. Cookie is quiet on his reads and I want to hear his opinion on what his thinking is. I don’t Speed has given true reads, and I want Oro’s reads and thinking on why Speed is a better candidate for lynch than Press, someone who suggested he was a Suicide Bomber/PGO, which is inherently a scummy claim IMO

Above

Nothing? Mk

Alright, since my role is now useless, I will full claim.

I am the Shofixti, my ship class is scout, and I am town Suicide Bomber (via the Glory Device on scout ships).

4) Ragnar                       WATCHER         Arilou                          Skiff

Claim please

Ok, thanks!

Ok can y'all explain the connection between your roles and species plz

(Don't copy/paste from PM, just paraphrase)

my species is known for practical jokes on other races, particularly the Spathi. therefore roleblocker  because the pranks are rough on victims,

Wow. I know I already said this, but I extend my deepest condolences to you and your family.

That is a pretty flimsy argument, ngl. 

 Roleblocker and a Suicide Bomber with all the others. Seems heavily unbalanced to be true. I think of you is lying to be honest and my thoughts and with Press. To have an investigative and a killing and a roleblocker and 2x healers is extremely OP. I think of one the two is lying

Please explain what the connection is between this:

I'm really sorry. I'll be praying for you both.

I agree that scum has to be between Oro and Press. Town is WAY overpowered

Flimsy but yet also the only argument anyone’s making

Also no scum would ever make this claim

Oh yeah and my justification, as Supox blade, I'm intelligent plants, and because my only form of attack is fairly primitive, that makes me vanilla

Lol

If we go with the overpowered town consensus, we land between Oro and Press. Assuming they're both telling the truth about their roles, it HAS to be Oro. That's because giving suicide bomber to Mafia would be GAME breaking overpoweredness, because suicide bombs that end in 1-1 trades ALWAYS favor town. And roleblocker literally just makes sense in terms of balance (as well as being a common scum role)

So VTL oromagi

I would like to hear other perspectives though

So I read your analysis and Oro's and looking at Oro's actions, I certainly see a scum lean pattern to them, and I think the roleblock role is inherently a scum role to it overall. I think there is some weight to that claim. I don't want to decide just yet, but Speed's reasoning has given me some insight on who to vote. However, a Suicide Bomber in this game is already unbalanced AF, so I don't how well I believe this claim.

I'm going to scum read all late claim power roles. All Vanillas are town in my eyes. Cookie hasn't appeared scum and seems like the typical town noob FMPOV. Speed claiming Vanilla is probably a town thing to do. I think with the inbalance in roles, we can safely guarantee at least 3 vanillas are in this game without a doubt. That's on basic balance

That means Cookie, Speed, and me are out

It comes down to those 2 overall. It's a 50/50 risk at this point.

It could also be entirely possible PressF and Oro are a team as well. I haven't seen any legit pressure on each other at all. Press and Oro haven't clashed at all in this game. Could they possibly be avoiding each other? I think it's a case. I think if we lynch Press or Oro, and one turns scum, the other is definitely scum

I want to hear what your opinions are?