Star Control Mafia DP ONE

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1. VTL =/= Lynch
Sorry. The wrong term used.

2. How do you 100% know he is town?
The only evidence presented with relevance to this topic agrees with my claim. Unless you can disprove that claim which you can't. I think he is most likely town because he said it, and there is maybe no reason to lie.

3. I find it funny how you are reacting way more strongly towards the VTL than Supa is. 
This is DArt, and I usually switch off my sense of humor unconsciously because I think debating is supposed to be serious. In fact, I don't know about the rule, and if Pressf's vote is serious, then I will 100% keep my vote on Supadudz. 


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That's the first time anyone's ever called me a boomer, lol
You aren't. There are grandparents who are just 38 or even younger because both generations have been smashing girls in high school. Based on your birthday, which is in 2002, you are not a boomer. 

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1. VTL =/= Lynch
Sorry. The wrong term used.
That's ok. Also, FYI, there are reasons why you would VTL someone without wanting to lynch them. 

2. How do you 100% know he is town?
The only evidence presented with relevance to this topic agrees with my claim. Unless you can disprove that claim which you can't.
True, his early claim does support his towniness (which I stated previously). However, this does not mean he is 100% town. In fact, the only way you'd be able to 100% know someone is town on DP1 is if you are mafia. 

I think he is most likely town because he said it, and there is maybe no reason to lie.
If you're mafia, there is a huge reason to lie. True, it is a risky approach, but fakeclaiming Vanilla Townie as mafia could pay off massively (and this has been done before, sometimes with great success).

3. I find it funny how you are reacting way more strongly towards the VTL than Supa is. 
This is DArt, and I usually switch off my sense of humor unconsciously because I think debating is supposed to be serious. In fact, I don't know about the rule, and if Pressf's vote is serious, then I will 100% keep my vote on Supadudz. 
The VTL on Supa was mostly a joke, but it does serve a practical purpose.
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You aren't. There are grandparents who are just 38 or even younger because both generations have been smashing girls in high school.
Good to know o_o

Based on your birthday, which is in 2002, you are not a boomer. 
Yes, I'm very aware I'm a zoomer, zoomer

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Oh, I didn't read closely enough and thought my ship was the character. Still unclear, is our character two-part? Yes, my species or race or whatever is Spathi
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Because I have a ton of potential but I don't reach it because I'm naturally cowardly
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Do you not understand what sarcasm is? Do you take things this literally in IRL
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Yes, I'm very aware I'm a zoomer, zoomer
Conceived during a Zoom meeting?
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Do you not understand what sarcasm is? Do you take things this literally in IRL
DAMN IT I am keep turning off my sense of humor just because I am on a debate site. 

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This is DArt, and I usually switch off my sense of humor unconsciously because I think debating is supposed to be serious. In fact, I don't know about the rule, and if Pressf's vote is serious, then I will 100% keep my vote on Supadudz. 

How is me not instantly getting mad at PF4R RVS link at all to me being scum? There is no real connection at all. Are you trying to skew information to nurture reactions?
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Interesting
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Not everyone here is all serious and stuff. It’s ok to be relax

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Conceived during a Zoom meeting?
No, Every teenager is considered a zoomer consider they are the currently the youngest generation yet. 

Unless you are talking about this...

Or this...

Hmm...

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Not everyone here is all serious and stuff. It’s ok to be relax
My conscious mind is telling me yes, but my unconscious part of mind keep turning it off for no reason. I 100% agree with you.
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I am still on PressF.
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The first annual zoomer zoom conference, to be specific
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Just curious, do you know what OMGUS is?
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Alright then.

Now that I think of it, you should be town.

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People who have "strange roles" are overwhelmingly town, so Warren is town for me
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Did you say your justification?
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DAMN IT I am keep turning off my sense of humor just because I am on a debate site. 
No need to do that. Even debates on serious topics can have humorous notes.
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Forgot to say this but VTL User because his bouncing around is giving me noob Mafia vibes

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Remember, the goal to this game is to eliminate everyone who is not on your side, not to try to kill anyone you don't like. Unless you are truly a Mafia member, it makes little to no sense to vote me. 
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Where did I say I don't like you?
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I mean, may not be "don't like", but you just explained that you voted me because I sound like a noob.
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I said you sound like a noob Mafia, Mafia being the keyword
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Now that everyone's posted, here's my reads for the first day:

1) SupaDudz - The first person to claim (#8), but I'm suspicious of early vanilla claims due to it benefiting scum. #25 is slightly suspect if User_2006 scum flips. I do find his misspelling of his race name to be a favorable sign.

2) LittleCookie08 - No opinion, save for a slight oddity of seemingly unearned top of mind awareness from User_2006 in #26.

3) PressF4Respect - I'm wondering what's going on in #37, #43, and #48. Regardless, I appreciate him giving useful reads in #46. His questioning in #57-#63 appears town-like.

4) Ragnar - He's scum more often than not.

5) oromagi - No opinion yet, but his #5 will become relevant for future reads.

6) iLikePie5 - No opinion yet, but with #60 he's at least putting in work.

7) Speedrace - Defending User_2006 to Warren in #21 and #24, after having seen User in the previous game, seems off. Granted, he also defends Warren in #81. ... Yeah, I'm thinking ahead too far into potential combinations.

8) Warren42 - Slightly suspect full claim in #32, as he would traditionally want Mafia to waste a night kill on him; justified with being a normal instead of a weak hider, but I don't see what is so weird about that (I'm honestly guessing he got mislynched for something similar before).

9) User_2006 - It took me a few games to understand what calculated posts meant, but #16 feels calculated; it's working very hard to defend itself later if I flip town. His reason for a VTL in #52 is weird and his defense of it in #61 is even more weird ("I think he is most likely town because he said it"), even if it could be a misunderstanding from inexperience.