God's Mercy ? It Just Cannot Be Justifide At All.

1. compassion or forgiveness shown towards someone whom it is within one's power to punish or harm.
   

   "the boy was screaming and begging for mercy"
   

   
   

   Similar:
   

   leniency, lenience, clemency, compassion, grace, pity
   

   
   

   
   

   There are many verses in the bible that just cannot be misinterpreted , misread or misunderstood, as much as the apologist will have us believe that they can. 
   

For instance Luke 6:36  "Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful".  So here "the father" -  I am going to assume means god, -is merciful.

And there can be no mistaking what is meant by this verse either:

Ephesians 2:4  "But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy".

So what happened to for example, Lot's wife? 

"But Lot's wife looked back, and she became a pillar of salt". Genesis 19:26  Murdered just for looking in the wrong direction at the wrong time. Fair enough, they were all given a warning  but to be sentenced to death for simple human curiosity  is not showing mercy is it?  she wasn't even given a chance to "repent" either! Where was god's mercy?

Children mauled to death for name calling!

2 Kings 2:23-24  "And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.

 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them".

 And " baldy" aka Elisha, didn't bat an eyelid, he simply went on his way.  Not a single bit of mercy was shown towards these children by "the father".

No mercy was shown to Job's children when "the father " sanctioned the murder of all of them  for no reason at all. Job 1:13-22

There are many of these verses where god,  "the Father" who loves us shows that he has not a single merciful bone in his body.

 One can only suppose that to god,  "the father who is full of mercy"..... and to Christian apologists, mercy must mean something different to what any level - headed human being understands mercy to mean.

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   There are many verses in the bible that just cannot be misinterpreted , misread or misunderstood, as much as the apologist will have us believe that they can. 
   

For instance Luke 6:36  "Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful".  So here "the father" -  I am going to assume means god, -is merciful.

And there can be no mistaking what is meant by this verse either:

Ephesians 2:4  "But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy".

So what happened to for example, Lot's wife? 

"But Lot's wife looked back, and she became a pillar of salt". Genesis 19:26  Murdered just for looking in the wrong direction at the wrong time. Fair enough, they were all given a warning  but to be sentenced to death for simple human curiosity  is not showing mercy is it?  she wasn't even given a chance to "repent" either! Where was god's mercy?

You're misinterpreting this as a suggestion that Lot's wife simply turned around, and glanced back at the city.

She actually stayed behind to watch the city burn.

 Genesis 19:20-30  Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, destroying all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land. 26 But Lot’s wife looked back, and she became a pillar of salt. 27 Early the next morning Abraham got up and returned to the place where he had stood before the Lord. 28 He looked down toward Sodom and Gomorrah, toward all the land of the plain, and he saw dense smoke rising from the land, like smoke from a furnace.

29 So when God destroyed the cities of the plain, he remembered Abraham, and he brought Lot out of the catastrophe that overthrew the cities where Lot had lived.  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+19%3A20-30&version=NIV

Children mauled to death for name calling!

2 Kings 2:23-24  "And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.

 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them".

 And " baldy" aka Elisha, didn't bat an eyelid, he simply went on his way.  Not a single bit of mercy was shown towards these children by "the father".

These were not little children. The Hebrew word used in this text includes young men. It was typical at that time in the Northern Kingdom for men to harass prophets. This was a mob. Not a group of little children. They probably meant physical harm to Elisha (common with mobs).

No mercy was shown to Job's children when "the father " sanctioned the murder of all of them  for no reason at all. Job 1:13-22

There are many of these verses where god,  "the Father" who loves us shows that he has not a single merciful bone in his body.

 One can only suppose that to god,  "the father who is full of mercy"..... and to Christian apologists, mercy must mean something different to what any level - headed human being understands mercy to mean.

 We all die.

The question is what happens afterwards.

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1. compassion or forgiveness shown towards someone whom it is within one's power to punish or harm.
   

   "the boy was screaming and begging for mercy"
   

   
   

   Similar:
   

   leniency, lenience, clemency, compassion, grace, pity
   

Alrighty, now lets look at Gods mercy logically. Using the definition you posted. 

Its irrefutable that God shows mercy, as he could destroy all of creation and sends everyone to hell....... 

........So thats not the problem. 

[A] The problem im seeing is the "freedom" of mercy being contested.

Thank you for reading, im not intrested in arguements, semantics or strawmen

And god killed her  for her simple human curiosity. Again your trying to explain away this unnecessary and pointless murder  that deprived two children of their mother and a man of his wife. There is absolutely nothing written before or after her death concerning Lot's wife lingering and rubbernecking at the utter disaster behind her.  And certainly not a single mention of  her"staying behind" to watch the fire works.  Look!>>.

So stop lying and making things up. Why are you attempting to add to and rewrite the scriptures AGAIN!!!? And where is the mercy  shown here from "the father"?

Again, you are contradicting what the scripture actually says.  There was no mention of harm and no mention of "baldy" being harmed by these CHILDREN. there is ONLY  name calling as CHILDREN DO!.  And  young men, or children, it is all besides the point , where was the mercy shown by "the father".. 

We do, but we don't all get murdered for nothing or on a whim by a supernatural being that is supposed to be a "merciful father" . Where is the mercy?

No, the question - that you have totally avoided on all three occasions above -  IS,   where is the mercy of "the father".

So stop lying and making things up. Why are you attempting to add to and rewrite the scriptures AGAIN!!!? And where is the mercy  shown here from "the father"?

The Hebrew word  for looked in this verse is nabat.

to scan, i.e. look intently at; by implication to look at with pleasure, favor or care: - behold, cause to behold, consider, look, look down, regard, have respect.

Do these definitions sound like someone who just got curious

And stop telling me I'm lying and making things up.

Again, you are contradicting what the scripture actually says.  There was no mention of harm and no mention of "baldy" being harmed by these CHILDREN. there is ONLY  name calling as CHILDREN DO!.  And  young men, or children, it is all besides the point , where was the mercy shown by "the father".. 

 Give me one good reason why this verse (amongst other verses about killing prophets) shouldn't be considered in light of the text in question?

 You are asking me above where in the verse does it mention "curiosity".  And now you want to introduce other words into the text such as - scan -look intently  at  - look at with pleasure, favor or care !!! It mentions none of these things at all does it. And on another thread you go to pains to tell me that " "There's no need to look at original language and translation, historical back ground,cultural context, etc." but here you are , grasping for the ancient texts like a drowning man in an attempt to excuse  and explain away the total lack of mercy shown by "the father".

There was no mention of harm and no mention of "baldy" being harmed by these CHILDREN. there is ONLY  name calling as CHILDREN DO!.

For crying out loud. I said you do have to look at original language and translation, historical back ground, cultural context, etc.

RoderickSpode, wrote: You seem to have this idea that if something appears contradictory there's no further examination needed. There's no need to look at original language and translation, historical back ground, cultural context, etc. #27

RoderickSpode

https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4124-parallels?page=2&post_number=27

There was no mention of harm and no mention of "baldy" being harmed by these CHILDREN. there is ONLY  name calling as CHILDREN DO!.

A Freudian slip perhaps?