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@Bullish
its np3 in my pm but i wasnt alive to challenge the mod
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@Vader
Every game dude. Every. Game.
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@Bullish
If someone asks about roles "hypothetically," you don't answer them.
I disagree.
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@Greyparrot
Don't be scummy
Shocked about pie
So bullish randomly lied about his target or whatm
Honestly that was a stupid bus by drafter DP1. It was unnecessary and accomplished nothing
Speed you should not extend the NO hoping for a move. You should be a disinterested party even if the game does not play out like you want
In my defense, Water's message was not clear, and I was looking for clarification.
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@Greyparrot
Wow.
I don't even think I pushed that hard for a Pie bus. He only got hammered because of all the inaccurate vote counts. I tried to switch it at near the end of the DP buy he was already hammered.
Oh, was I lynched?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
SA was, and he was a judas. SMH
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@Speedrace
I do not think that this was TERRIBLY misbalanced. Judas was what made it so bad.
Omfg there was a judas too? Did town have any power roles at all? Holy crap.
Speed I told you this before and I will say it again the key to making balanced games is to think to yourself "what is the best case scenario for town? What is the worst case scenario for town?" Then ask the same about mafia.
Worst case scenario for town in this setup was losing without even getting to DP 2. This could have happened NP 1:
Lynch Judas (very easy mislynch considering the 'test lynchproof claim' idea).
Suicide bomber targets town
Mafia kills lover pair
This would have brought the game instantly to 4v1v4.
Worst case scenario for mafia still got them to DP 2 at least smh.
General rule of thumb is that if no roles exist the number of allowed mislynches equals the number of scum. Town was cripplingly underpowered from the start in this one. Even without the judas DP 1 loss was possible and very nearly happened.
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@drafterman
Yeah Sir would have been lynched otherwise and there wouldn't even have been a DP2, because there would have been 8 players DP2, 4 of whom being mafia. So in hindsight I pushed the worst lynch possible.
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@Lunatic
Oh, have not read last 2 pages of the game yet. When I saw SA was judas I assumed he was NK'ed NP 2.
If I was judas I would be desperately trying to get myself lynched after that NP 1 fiasco lol.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I think I was correct about Sir's stance on thematic split indicating he had inside info.
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@Bullish
No, although mafia did know beforehand
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@Bullish
No, you weren't. I had no insider info. It was impossible for me to predict the theme because my role could be either scum or town, so my character was not indicative of the theme.
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@SirAnonymous
Your role description implied cap vs iron man.
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@Bullish
That's true, but that was misleading information and was not related to any actual thematic split.
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@Bullish
Your role description implied cap vs iron man.
Black Widow switched from iron man to cap in the description. Did Iron Man have enough heroes on his side to fill a nine player town? I brought this up in the game but got no answer (drowned out in the 1k posts I guess).
We had two power roles and five (arguably four) negative utility roles in a nine player town versus a vanilla TP and three scum power roles...
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@SirAnonymous
The reason I was able to toe the line so well was that I wasn't toeing the line. After my despairing comments about outing the siblings on page 6 of DP1, I resolved to win as town if at all possible. After that, I had managed to almost entirely divorce my mind from the reality that I was Judas
You will be a very good scum player then. It's really just as simple as divorcing your mind from the fact that you are scum during the DP and not being an idiot in the NP. Just what you say here but reversed. Harder to do because of subconscious influence from the info advantage but just as simple a concept.
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@Vader
What is also veyr dumb is because there was logical reasoning to claim the role I did because of GP's claim. If the game were balanced with the removal of that Suicidal shit, I would have not have claimed.
I am glad you learned your lesson. Now hopefully you will never use balance analysis to form a read ever again because it turned out that the reasons I told you not to in-game were exactly what turned out to be the case.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Playing as mafia is easier. I'm still awful as town. My high levels of activity and occasional analysis is a poor disguise for my persistent failure to catch scum.
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@SirAnonymous
Playing as mafia is easier.
Agree.
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@Vader
Your role was inherently scummy
Also please explain how claiming a confirmable role is 'inherently scummy'.
So let me get this straight.Pie was about to be written off as "mod confirmed town" and I, his teammate, instead of literally doing nothing and allowing him to be "mod confirmed" decided to fight tooth and nail to bus him.That's your theory.
Yep, that's exactly what I did :D