VTL SA.
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@Lunatic
Right, but in both of those scenarios, SA is proposed as the second scum partner.
And he's claimed lynch proof so the only risk is that he is lying. But if he is town and lying about that then that is tantamount to some game throwing Judas bullshit.
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@Lunatic
@drafterman
Oh I like this kill SA idea.
However, the three of us need to decide drafters target before NP begins
And we need to hear from SA before ending too
Ok I have a plan about 40% worked out that I think town can agree to. I will finish it in my head then write it down in the DP... After I wake up from sleeping. I think I can make it so that town survives at least to DP 5.
Sleep time for real this time.
Unvote again just in case
He should randomize roleblock between warren oro ragnar
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@drafterman
P.S. plz answer the questions I asked in earlier post
P.P.S. goodnight
I think this plan naturally gets us to DP5. Assuming there is a succesful night kill tonight and SA is guilty and lynched,
DP4:
2-3-1
Someone gets results from DD so we can know if he is telling the truth, and someone will claim if roleblocked to see if it aligns with who drafter said. Based on the results or lack there of, we hopefully lynch a scum. Might already be afforded a DP5 if SA was guilty anyway, but in the off chance both players results check (drafter and DD) then we have a confirmed scum between ragnar warren and oro (whoever wasn't killed between them) and can almost lynch randomly. We do have to question the role confirmation = affiliation confirmation thing with DD though. If drafter is town roleblocker, I don't see why DD couldn't be a scum investigative role. If we lynch correctly this dp we get to DP5 regardless, or its a loss. Kind of a tight spot regardless but less tight than today.
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@Barney
@warren42
thoughts?
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@Lunatic
I need to get caught up on the reading ; but I am busy with comic con today.
BTW, thanks for still playing a good game even when your win condition got removed by Water.
Vote Count
Discipulus_Didicit - oromagi
SirAnonymous - drafterman, Lunatic
Not Voting: Ragnar, oromagi, warren42, SirAnonymous
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I did. I am an every night role blocker. Justification is because I distracted and delayed people like Vision and Iron Man.
I agree with randomly choosing among warren, oro and ragnar
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@Barney
Win or loss comes second to having fun. On a side note though water may have been responsible for killing supa and SA. Not sure how that would have worked still but obviously bullish should have died if they were nk targets
Ok. I'm finally back on, and the chaos I see is quite something. No, I did not receive a message telling me I was roleblocked. As Lunatic pointed out, that doesn't mean anything if I'm scum with DD. However, I don't have any problems with being lynched today. It would just be a VTNL, and I think that's the right play today.
Rather than hold everything up, I’ll just put my cards on the table...
Scarlet Witch, a doctor because she can’t save everyone.
NP1 I protected Bullish on the off chance he wasn’t lying. If BG, protecting him would assure he survived no matter which of the three likely targets mafia went for.
DP2, his protection of Supa failing, caused me to believe he was lying. I did not consider a strongman might be in play (odd night I hope, otherwise protectors are basically vanilla).
NP2 I protected DiDi, again from my scum pile, but if not scum the most likely target. Maybe my protection worked, maybe Mafia knowing a doctor was in play skipped the kill to trick us, or maybe Drafter blocked the NK... I don’t know.
oromagi
X.WaterPhoenix SUCIDE BOMB Crossbones
TOWN ROLE CLAIM
warren42 . .
Ragnar Hawkeye, Ant-Man, or Scarlet Witch
drafterman ROLE BLOCKER .
Vote Count
Discipulus_Didicit - oromagi
SirAnonymous - drafterman, Lunatic
Not Voting: Ragnar, Disc, warren42, SirAnonymous
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@Barney
Rather than hold everything up, I’ll just put my cards on the table...Scarlet Witch, a doctor because she can’t save everyone.NP1 I protected Bullish on the off chance he wasn’t lying. If BG, protecting him would assure he survived no matter which of the three likely targets mafia went for.DP2, his protection of Supa failing, caused me to believe he was lying. I did not consider a strongman might be in play (odd night I hope, otherwise protectors are basically vanilla).NP2 I protected DiDi, again from my scum pile, but if not scum the most likely target. Maybe my protection worked, maybe Mafia knowing a doctor was in play skipped the kill to trick us, or maybe Drafter blocked the NK... I don’t know.
I am about 80% sure its DD and Drafter.
I am confident in Warren based on his DP1 prosecution of Pie.
lynchproof would be a terrible claim for a non-lynchproof and a lynchproof Mafia without any killing roles extant makes zero sense
You have been a big question mark for 3 DPs because you have been so quiet but I believe you now.
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@drafterman
drafter- are you still withholding your character claim or am I a missing?
oromagi
X.WaterPhoenix SUCIDE BOMB Crossbones
TOWN ROLE CLAIM
warren42 . .
Ragnar DOCTOR Scarlet Witch
drafterman ROLE BLOCKER .
Discipulus_Didicit COMEDIAN Tony Stark
SCUM ROLE CLAIM
Vote Count
Discipulus_Didicit - oromagi
SirAnonymous - drafterman, Lunatic
Not Voting: Ragnar, Disc, warren42, SirAnonymous
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@drafterman
@Barney
@warren42
@oromagi
@Discipulus_Didicit
Who do you want to lynch today? Right now, I'm thinking that it could be a good idea to lynch me. It would confirm me for the next DP (although I'd probably get NKed because of that), and it would function as a VTNL. Also, if you think I'm scum, it gets rid of me.
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@Lunatic
Above.
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@SirAnonymous
I don't want to lynch you because I believe you are town. I want to lynch DD or drafter- probably drafter first since he has role block
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@oromagi
Yes, I'm town, so lynching me would be a VTNL. We could get more info next round. Also, the NK would eliminate a suspect, which is good because there's no one we can rule out besides Lunatic at this point.
Well damn ragnar then could have blocked the night kill on DD instead of drafter blocking it. Ragnars claim is redundant if he is scum with drafter though. So now this makes drafter look scummier.
SA lynch still seems most logical. What if he is mafia and 1 shot lynchproof?
The roleblock/doctor dynamic is gonna be confusing. For some reason Scarlett witch as doctor makes sense to me though.
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@drafterman
Role justification for hawkeye being role blocker?
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@drafterman
Nvm you posted it already
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@Lunatic
Lynching me is looking more and more logical. I'm the only person besides Lunatic that town can lynch and be 100% certain that mafia won't win. If I'm town, it's a VTNL and we catch scum next round. If I'm scum, I get caught. As someone said, it's a win-win.
Drafter has claimed ROLEBLOCKER- Bullish suspected a mafia roleblocker and indeed ROLE BLOCKERs are more often scum than town.
"The role is very commonly seen as part of the Mafia, but can also be useful for the Town."
Let's note that unlike Ragnar, drafter did not reveal what he did with his blocks on either night- crucial info for town.
Drafter criticized the choice of VTL'ing Ragnar just a few pages back and now his list is Warren Oro and Ragnar. Drafter more than any other player would give heavy credit to Warren & Oro's DP1 attack on Pie and ignoring Disc's behavior is very un-drafterlike.
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@Lunatic
I have an alternative explanation for why the night kill failed
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@oromagi
Drafter criticized the choice of VTL'ing Ragnar just a few pages back and now his list is Warren Oro and Ragnar.
To roleblock. Not VTL.