Trump At The March For Life

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Trump was already a part of the thread and Trump and Netanyahu evolved quite appropriately from the same.
Lol. How did Netanyahu evolve from the topic? There was nothing about Jews, nothing about Israel, there was nothing about any subject outside of America.

In short; I say what I think is relevant and have very few steadfastly pre-conditioned ideas.
You thought Zionism was relevant because you are an anti-semite and thus are overly sensitive to it. You see it everywhere, and take the slightest opportunity to castigate Jews.

Q. And so why is calling a Zionist a Zionist anti-Semitic? 
Suddenly ranting about Zionists in a conversation about the first American president to attend a pro-life march exposes your latent antisemitism buddy. How do you even connect the two?

A. It's not of course, but nonetheless can easily be cynically manipulated to discredit an opponent and/or stir up trouble. Which is directly relative to the thread.
I would have thought the same thing if you had suddenly started blurting about Sandinistas, or Bolsheviks, or Maoists.

I believe you don't know you have these latent biases, but you really need to do a soul search Zed.
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When people say babies have a "right to life" is the right to life a positive right or a negative right?

If it's a positive right, then I do not support the concept of a right to life.

If it's a negative right, then I support the concept of a right to life.

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Interesting concept.

If a mother knows a man is trying to kill her 6 moth old baby, and does nothing to thwart the man, and the baby is killed, has she violated the babies right to be protected from known threats to its life?

Does the baby have a positive rights case against the mother? Does not the baby's life have a right to be protected by the mother?


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LOL.

If your last reply is not a rant then I don't know what is.


Nonetheless:

Trump is the protagonist and Netanyahu the Zionist is his friend and they recently met inside of America.

And so the thread unravelled itself.

And I never mentioned Sandinistas, Bolsheviks or Maoists.

Whereas you, unwittingly or not have just introduced them to the thread.

See how these things unravel?

And all the above created during a period quiet reflection at the start of my day.

No ranting was or is ever needed.



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your last reply is not a rant then I don't know what is.

The charge of ranting can easily be cynically manipulated to discredit an opponent and/or stir up trouble

Trump is the protagonist and Netanyahu the Zionist is his friend and they recently met inside of America.
Lol! O.k Adolph.

And so the thread unravelled itself.
And then you woke up. The thread isn't unravelled. You just came out of the blue with an attack on Zionists betraying your latent antisemitism. You aren't alone, antisemitism seems to be in vogue right now.

See how these things unravel?
I see how you hope they do.

No ranting was or is ever needed.
Too bad the same isn't true for your antisemitism.
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HaHa.

Nuff said.
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Till you true disposition slips out again.

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A sentient blob of organic matter is a sentient blob of organic matter. 

And peripheral labelling is something that passes the time of day.

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Now that's nuff said.

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There isn't enough information to determine whether or not the mother is to blame for a random man killing her baby. Maybe the mother should have done more to protect the baby or maybe the mother was doing everything "right" and the baby still got killed, and there wasn't anything else the mother could have done.
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I think Trump paid people to get abortions before.


Given [Trump’s] draconian comment [about] sending women back to back alleys, I had to ask: When he was a swinging bachelor in Manhattan, was he ever involved with anyone who had an abortion?
“Such an interesting question,” he said. “So what’s your next question?”


It was a simple question that Trump dodged.  I think he was involved with someone who had an abortion.  He was pro choice before, he probably told her to get an abortion and she did.

If your pro life, I think you should turn on Trump.  I did.
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Lol! Unlike liberals, I convict people on facts, not baseless speculation and allegations.

And check the thread you're in. You might be confused.

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And check the thread you're in. You might be confused.
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I was calling Trump a hypocrite if he was responsible for abortions yet is pro life.  I'd say there is evidence against Trump.  I'm also not a liberal, given that I'm also pro life and a bunch of other right wing traits.

Trump dodged the question.  Therefore, I think he did it.
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Trump dodged the question.  Therefore, I think he did it.
All I can say is, thank God you're not a judge.

I was calling Trump a hypocrite if he was responsible for abortions yet is pro life.
Would you call someone a hypocrite if he was responsible for births yet is pro abortion?
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Trump dodged the question.  Therefore, I think he did it.
All I can say is, thank God you're not a judge.

I was calling Trump a hypocrite if he was responsible for abortions yet is pro life.
Would you call someone a hypocrite if he was responsible for births yet is pro abortion?
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Would you call someone a hypocrite if he was responsible for births yet is pro abortion?
I'm pro life, but very few people are pro abortion.  If you had births yet were pro choice, that's not hypocrisy.

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It depends on the individual's definition of "pro abortion".  If they didn't want people having kids and had them, it would be hypocrisy.

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It depends on the individual's definition of "pro abortion".
Can you give me examples of 2 different definitions of pro-abortion?

I was calling Trump a hypocrite if he was responsible for abortions yet is pro life.
Would you call someone a hypocrite if he was responsible for births yet is pro abortion?

If you had births yet were pro choice, that's not hypocrisy.
Seems like a double standard to me.

If they didn't want people having kids and had them, it would be hypocrisy.
Isn't pro-abortion the stance that a woman's unborn baby should die if she wants it to die?

And pro-life the stance that a woman's unborn baby should not die even if she wants it to die?

How is it not hypocrisy for one to demand that whether someone else lives or dies be determined by how you feel?

So a pro-abortionist can have a child when she wants, and kill the child when she wants, with no hypocrisy, but with a pro-lifer, the same decisions are somehow hypocritical?
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And the dodgy Orange Guy will march if he thinks it's worth it.

And just like the Orange guy we're all selectively moral when push comes to shove.



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...we're all selectively moral when push comes to shove.
No sir. You tell yourself this because you're ashamed of your morality. The only person you're sure is selectively moral when push comes to shove, is you.

The only nihilist here is you.
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Can you give me examples of 2 different definitions of pro-abortion?

Pro abortion:Wanting abortion to be mandatory
Pro abortion: Wanting abortion to be encouraged.

The mainstream left believes abortion should be allowed or discouraged, it depends.

Isn't pro-abortion the stance that a woman's unborn baby should die if she wants it to die?
This is the pro choice position, although I don't agree with it.

How is it not hypocrisy for one to demand that whether someone else lives or dies be determined by how you feel?
Because pro choicers tend to believe at least one of the two thesis:

1) The unborn is not a human for some reason.
2) The unborn's death, since it would be painless is not as bad as the woman being in pregnancy pain for 9 months against her will.

So a pro-abortionist can have a child when she wants, and kill the child when she wants, with no hypocrisy, but with a pro-lifer, the same decisions are somehow hypocritical?
I don't think either party should be allowed to kill a fetus, but they wouldn't be hypocritical if they believe it's okay.  Once banned, they would be criminals and would face penalties, but the pro choicers wouldn't be hypocrites.
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Pro abortion:Wanting abortion to be mandatory
Lol. I don't think you know what you're talking about.

Isn't pro-abortion the stance that a woman's unborn baby should die if she wants it to die?

This is the pro choice position, 
And that choice is abortion right? Let's not play footsies with words.

How is it not hypocrisy for one to demand that whether someone else lives or dies be determined by how you feel?

Because pro choicers tend to believe at least one of the two thesis:
1) The unborn is not a human for some reason.
Nonsense. We can be arrested even for cruelty to animals. We can't kill living things just because they aren't human. This doesn't save them from the charge of hypocrisy.

2) The unborn's death, since it would be painless is not as bad as the woman being in pregnancy pain for 9 months against her will.
More nonsense. Is painless murder OK? And how can a fetus be in a woman against her will? Was she raped? Inseminated without her knowledge? This doesn't save them from the charge of hypocrisy.

Pro abortion:Wanting abortion to be mandatory.
Lol. This is exactly the same thing as being pro-death isn't it?
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Hey Orange Guy you march for life.

And rest easy.

We'll just drone a few more A-rabs.


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We'll just drone a few more A-rabs.
But not as many as Obama did eh, Corbyn?

You'd rather us drone those pesky Zionist instead huh? When did England become home to anti-semites?

The labour Party. Boris too Zionist for you?
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Just for the record:
Semite is a general term for people who speak a Semitic language, which includes both Jews and Arabs. 

And as I stated previously, in a separate thread perhaps.  I have no political allegiances.

I regard politicians and political debate for their entertainment value. 

So, Donny marches for life and the U.S drones another Semite. Isn't that a tad hypocritical.



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Just for the record: 
Semite is a general term for people who speak a Semitic language, which includes both Jews and Arabs. 
Reminds me of when racists try to explain the "general term" negro.

And as I stated previously, in a separate thread perhaps.  I have no political allegiances.
But you obviously have political hatreds.

So, Donny marches for life and the U.S drones another Semite. Isn't that a tad hypocritical.
Only to lowlifes who morally equate unborn babies with terrorists.

When fetuses start blowing up markets and schools, come talk to me.
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The general term is.
So why are Semite children lowlife?

Nope, no hate, only preferred entertainers perhaps.





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So why are Semite children lowlife?
Who knows what motivates bigots? My guess is inherited stupidity.

Nope, no hate...
OK. I just find it interesting that if one listens to bigots, bigotry doesn't exist.
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Isn't pro-abortion the stance that a woman's unborn baby should die if she wants it to die?
No! Pro choice is the correct term and it has nothing to do with babies.

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Isn't pro-abortion the stance that a woman's unborn baby should die if she wants it to die?

No! Pro choice is the correct term
OK, so pro choice is the stance that a woman's unborn baby should die if she wants it to die.

The correct term should be pro death.

..and it has nothing to do with babies
Lol! OK, it has nothing to do with babies.

And pedophilia has nothing to do with children.

And rape has nothing to do with sex.

And illegal immigration has nothing to do with the law.


Ah, liberal logic!