Captain America: Civil War Mafia - DP1

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Although that would have been weird if you fake claimed doc only for me and I died NP3.
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VTL Lunatic
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@Discipulus_Didicit
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  1. SirAnonymous: Lean Town- Pretty active and hasn't made any anti-town plays, nothing that special
  2. SupaDudz: Lean Scum- wtf was supa doing at the beginning, he repeatedly hinted at his role, and even when everyone was ignoring those hints he kept at it. Seems sus af.
  3. Ragnar: Null- Has been pretty inactive so far.
  4. Greyparrot: Scum- Lunatic's play would have been the riskiest thing ever if he was scum so grey is probably scum.
  5. Singularity: Lean Scum- even worse than supa, she literally claimed out of the blue for no reason whatsoever.
  6. Discipulus_Didicit: Lean Town- fairly active and hasn't made any scum slips.
  7. drafterman: Lean Town- fairly active and hasn't made any scum slips.
  8. ILikePie5: Null- he hasn't done anything scummy and hasn't been as active as he said he'd be but is more active than his usual do nothing for the first 3 dps
  9. oromagi: Lean Town- has played fairly pro-town and has been pretty active.
  10. Lunatic: Town- day cop play makes no sense as scum.
  11. warren42: Null- Inactive.
  12. Bullish: Sorta Lean Town- He's been fairly active.


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I do sus water and and oro though for not waiting. Grey was clearly going to be lynched, letting a potential yakuza live was never gonna happen, so there wasn't any worry of him not getting lynched. Looked kind of oppertunistic. Extra town read for DD.
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@Lunatic
I didn't see the day cop thing..
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@WaterPhoenix
now lunatic is claiming third party lyncher and the win.  
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There is no actual point to lynching me, even if the hammer somehow didn't go through. If it didn't go through for some reason, I am basically useless and a waste of a lynch, since no one would ever vote grey again now that he's town confirmed. 

Also why were you in a hurry to hammer despite DD asking to let people post?
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@oromagi
What?? Oh oaib sodifozivnzlxnvckjnlaebl frickin ansldkflzxkbclxncoinalkd fgod nansdk fnlasdkblfjbwj embds
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@Singularity
From the OP:

I end DPs and judge activity by votes. DP only ends when there is a majority lynch AND everyone is voting -OR- due to time limit.

Not everyone is voting yet so neither of these conditions has been met. People tagged are people on greys waggon. I request that these people unvote immediately.

I pretended to have forgotten this detail from the mod in post 376 because I was still not really convinced of the GP-is-scum idea and was sure that lunatic was doing something fishy that I hoped would slip during the following pseudo-twilight. A long shot I know, frankly I am amazed it actually happened.

So can we stop screwing around now and focus on the bullish vs pie train? Please? Thank you.

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@oromagi
Okay only just now noticed post 388. Thank you.
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Haha! This is so funny. Lunatic just pulled a brilliant gambit that worked, but he just lost because he didn't read the rules.
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@Greyparrot
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@WaterPhoenix
DP is not over yet. See above.
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This explains the balance issue. GP being suicidal was to counterbalance Lunatic being a lyncher.
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UNVOTE
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Everyone unvote Grey. Lunatic just unwittingly town confirmed him.
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@SirAnonymous
Haha! This is so funny. Lunatic just pulled a brilliant gambit that worked, but he just lost because he didn't read the rules.
We will see what Speedrace says I guess. I personally think that rule is pretty dumb, and ruins the excitement/strategy around quick hammering, punishing active players with the inactive. Regardless, if I lose i guess I'll take take the 3rd place and try to help town. I almost did that option anyway, and was severely tempted to just straight up claim 3rd party from the get go. 

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@SirAnonymous
This explains the balance issue. GP being suicidal was to counterbalance Lunatic being a lyncher.

Holy crap, it is almost like the whole time me and drafter have been going on about how balance analysis is retar- *ahem* not useful because of the possibility of there being features that town is not aware of was actually fucking spot on.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
So can we stop screwing around now and focus on the bullish vs pie train? Please? Thank you.


I saw your case on bullish, didn't see the one on pie. Brief reminder or link?
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@Lunatic
We will see what Speedrace says I guess. I personally think that rule is pretty dumb, and ruins the excitement/strategy around quick hammering, punishing active players with the inactive.

I agree with this and I feel kind of dirty for "tricking" you in such a way but, you know... I got a wincon I need fulfilled.
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Holy crap, it is almost like the whole time me and drafter have been going on about how balance analysis is retar- *ahem* not useful because of the possibility of there being features that town is not aware of was actually fucking spot on.
I agree with this. I find it extremely annoying when players make assumptions about bastard modding, and complain about balance in the first day phases without full knowledge. Mod can't defend himself either without inadvertently giving something away either, so he's just taking abuse for no reason.

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So this confirms Grey and Lunatic. He's now harmless dead weight.

Back to our regularly scheduled programming.

Vtl pie


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I'm still counting but it looks like post #126, Pie forgot to unvote before VTL'ing GP.  Later on, Speed says to drafter "no need to unvote"  Do we know what unvote rules are in play?
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@oromagi
Don't vote lunatic, he's harmless now and that just gives mafia a free kill
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@Lunatic
didn't see the one on pie. Brief reminder or link?

I have a null read on pie, drafter scum read him and we agreed to a sort of comprise. Post 258 iirc.
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@oromagi
It doesn't matter, not everyone voted so grey wasn't lynched 
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I agree with this and I feel kind of dirty for "tricking" you in such a way but, you know... I got a wincon I need fulfilled.
Getting lynched on anyone is going to be exasperating with this rule of requiring everyone to lynch btw. Drafter does this in his quickfires, and I don't like it there either, but it makes more sense. The games are supposed to be quick so it's more likely to pull off a lynch. But this is going to be excruciating.
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UNVOTE
VTL Ragnar

oromagi
TOWN
ILikePie5                 (power)

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drafterman
Bullish                    (Falcon, Hawkeye, Scarlet Witch, or Ant-Man)
SupaDudz             LOVER (1of2)    Steve Rogers
Singularity             LOVER (2or2)    Bucky Barnes
Ragnar
Lunatic                  LYNCHER       T'Challa
warren42
Greyparrot             SUICIDAL       Helmut Zemo
warren42

SCUM

A Mostly Inaccurate Vote Count


Ragnar - 1/7 - oromagi
Grey - 6/7 - SupaDudz, Singularity, Pie, Lunatic,
Bullish - 1/7 - DD
SirAnonymous-1/7- Bullish
iLikePie5-1/7- grey, drafter



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I like the rule because it prevents winning via quick hammers like this and forces scum to play more strategically
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You shouldn't gloat until the mod calls it anyway. You never know if someone is popular or if there is something like a governor
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@drafterman
I like the rule because it prevents winning via quick hammers like this and forces scum to play more strategically
I feel like quickhammers are risky and strategical, which is what makes them fun. Agree to dis-agree I guess.

Unvote, VTL bullish, following DD's lead in the case of grey not being lynched.