DART Survivor Mafia - DP1

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@Zaradi
Just skimmed. Singularity looks fishy

VTL SINGLE
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@Greyparrot
Lol
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Grey - 2/6 - Pie, oro
oro - 3/6 - Speed, Supa, Singularity
Singularity - 1/6 - Grey
VTNL - 1/6 - Ragnar

Not voting: Zaradi, Water

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@Greyparrot
Technically right, but oro will still be killed though and converted
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It'll then be 7v3
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@Greyparrot
I'd take my chances on a 6v2 vs a 5v3 anyday of the week. I think Singularity looks fishy too, but we can't worry about the mafia turning. Most people are on board besides you two, so I think this a slight bus atm
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@Speedrace
5v3.

Assuming we lynch a town and then mafia gets Nk and oro is converted
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@Vader
Nah, theres no point in voting oro. it's exactly the same as voting miller. Bad idea.
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@Vader
If anything you should be looking at the people on those trains as scum, especially the ones on an inactive town before I replaced him.
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@Speedrace
nah, but Nk gets wasted too so it's a wash. 
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@Greyparrot
Miller is different because it does not cause a shift in the game. They actually turn into scum destroying the balance
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@Greyparrot
I believe in policy lynching millers
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@Vader
its a wash not a shift. Whtevs if town wants to waste today killing a miller type role so be it.

I'll just laugh when the endgame rolls around.
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In case of any lie detectors: I win with Town.
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@Barney
Lol 😂😂
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@Greyparrot
Turncoat isn't like a Miller. Millers just confuse cops. A turncoat is a time bomb that can completely change a game once turned. Better to take him out now.
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@Speedrace
I don't know how often they show up. However, with nothing happening, might as well.
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@Singularity
This is just if it wasn't a randomizer. Wylted was drafter's main enemy in the game so if the roles weren't randomized then wylted would def be scum.

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@SirAnonymous
It's a ridiculously dumb idea because if scum wastes a nk on traitor they just give town a free night action..... no reason at all for town to be voting up a wash that gives town an extra night action.
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@Greyparrot
Ok, I'm voting oro. I don't know enough about mafia to make insighful comments but if we can kill someone who can lead to town's demise and we know can be turned into mafia then wouldn't it better then someone who might be mafia?

VTL Oro
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@Greyparrot
I am vanilla town and my name is Shab.
bit of role justification would be nice.


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@Zaradi
slightly leaning scum on WaterPhoenix
:( why
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@WaterPhoenix
I'll be laughing at you in the end game as well for passing up a free town night action.
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@WaterPhoenix
Really, if town is so blatantly ignorant to not see a NK on oro by mafia gives town a free night action, then I'm just gonna sit back and let town kill itself off since I don't want to play a game where I am the most logical town player.
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@Greyparrot
But then there's literally another mafia.

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@Greyparrot
Mathematically speaking, we have to kill him while there are more than 6 players. Once we get down to 6 players, mafia will NK him and win with a 3 to split. This, of course, changes if we do catch scum. However, we need to watch the numbers of total players compared to the numbers of mafia and lynch him before it becomes possible for the mafia to win by NK'ing him and turning him to their side.
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@WaterPhoenix
so what? skum wastes a nk if we keep oro alive. If we kill him off today scum doesn't HAVE to waste a nk.

Town gets a free night action the very night scumteam waives the NK by wasting it on oro.
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Scum probably knows this so if scum is smarter than town, they will surely try to get the traitor lynched BEFORE they will be forced to waste a NK action.
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@Greyparrot
See post 267. We know for a fact that we will have to lynch oro. Since we have no better options this DP, the most logical thing we can do is to lynch him now rather than waste today's lynch only to have to lye him later.