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It's like people don't know what reaction testing is anymore?
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Water, you're not mafia?

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@drafterman
It's like people except other people to read their mind over the internet these days
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@irontoaster
Water, you're not mafia?
Lol
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@Speedrace
Reaction tests tend not to work when you broadcast them in advance.

"Hey, I'm going to make a post to get a reaction out of you to see if you are mafia. But please ignore that part and just act normally so I can get an accurate read. Your cooperation is appreciated."

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@drafterman
I wasn't asking you to broadcast it, but I was asking you to reveal it after the fact. #91 made it sound like you expected us to just guess what you were doing

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@Speedrace
Ok. I will reveal it after the fact, then.

Shhh, don't tell water.
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@drafterman
Lol
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Supa slight scum reading drafter for casting a self claimed serious vote on water with only a gut feeling after TWO MESSAGES is scummy? How?
Because both you and supa should understand the nature of drafter's vote. It's not mind reading either, not when votes of this type are seen in literally every game. 

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@Lunatic
Where is the nature. You can't just legit vote someone and just say "bc I feel like they are scum." That isn't how drafterman plays, that is how scum drafterman plays
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@Lunatic
Where is the nature. You can't just legit vote someone and just say "bc I feel like they are scum." That isn't how drafterman plays, that is how scum drafterman plays
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Lunatic is town imo
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I don't like his reasoning though bc it's god awful
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Buddy I didn't scum read him, I have an FOS with his vote. Everyone has an FOS whether town or not
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@Lunatic
FOS =/= Scum read?

A finger of suspicion means you suspect them. If 7 people are interrogated with murder, that doesn't mean they look like they did.
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Which game? And I just find it really hard to believe that you can get a hunch on someone from two posts. I don't think your scum as that would be way too obvious starting this kind of lynch but maybe that's what you want me to think. Pretty sure this is called wifom.
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@Lunatic
He claimed it serious! What nature is there?
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@Vader
reaction testing, activity creation.. There's usually very little to go off of in games like these. 
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@Vader
Post a link to a game where I was scum and did this.
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@drafterman
Your DP1 play in DCM is similar
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@Vader
Please link where I said someone was scum after two posts and claimed it was a hunch with no hard evidence.

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~6.5 HOURS LEFT THIS DP
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@irontoaster
No, I'm not.
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@drafterman
Ok.



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@drafterman
With AROSE you literally just bandwagoned him for no reason
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@Vader
Firstly, "no reason" would be different than what I've done here.


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Vote Count:
WaterPhoenix (2/5) - drafterman, irontoaster
SupaDudz (1/5) - Lunatic
irontoaster (1/5) - Virtuoso
drafterman (1/5) - SupaDudz

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Where is the nature. You can't just legit vote someone and just say "bc I feel like they are scum." That isn't how drafterman plays, that is how scum drafterman plays
RVS votes are excluded from logic. Look up any game from FourTrouble. He starts every game with an un-explained vote to generate pressure and get a reaction. A lot of people were doing that before FT but he's the best example of someone who always used it.

Lunatic is town imo
I actually find this even more suspicious. It's a good way as scum to try and soften the pressure on you, by town reading the person suspecting you. It's what you do when you don't want to be called out for OMGUS. In reality, there is not much to town read me for, especially in context to your position on my calling you out for your bad logic. 

I don't like his reasoning though bc it's god awful
Who, mine? You don't like it because it shows you tunneled in on something extremely minor, and makes you look scummy.

A finger of suspicion means you suspect them. If 7 people are interrogated with murder, that doesn't mean they look like they did.
Sounds like semantics to me. You clearly think there is something off about drafter's water vote, because it's the only thing you've talked about this day phase. You being non-committal about it only makes me read you scummier.

He claimed it serious! What nature is there?
RVS votes are serious. They are a serious attempt to garner a reaction out of the receiver. In that I feel like drafter was successful, though his intended target was water, we found the shady behavior from you instead. 
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BTW, I fully intend to lynch supadudz, and am not removing my vote. I find his reactions to the drafter vote very scummy. Combined with him being non-committal following speedraces comments about FOS=/=Scum reading, it looks like he is trying use that read as a cop out of the read. And the town read on me is scummy, if you didn't read my post responding to him.