What do you guys think of the American election's candidates so far?

Sanders has the same base as Warren, so whichever takes the lead in the primary states will take over that radical base. 

Yeah, Warren is the most likely in my opinion. Sanders' health isn't helping him.

I meant that Warren and Sanders have similar platforms. Whoever drops out, the other will likely inherit that base. It may currently be divided socioeconomically and racially right now, but if they care about policy, the base will run to the other.

Buttigieg really has no chance. I have heard he is doing well in primary states and the first two are crucial.

I heard Warren is falling behind because of her grossly unpopular tax plans to pay for healthcare and other programs.

Biden has been falling in the polls, but people still like Obama and most centrist Democrats like him.

Seems rather expensive. How will the benefits exceed those costs and how will taxes rise to pay for this?

If you look at the 2nd choices of candidates in polls you will see this is not the case. The top 2nd choice for Biden supporters is Bernie. The top 2nd choice for Bernie supporters is Biden, not warren. The top 2nd choice for warren was Bernie though. If warren dropped out, that would probably help Sanders. If sanders dropped out, that wouldn't really help warren. 

Pete is dumping huge amounts of money into the early states. They are kind of his wheelhouse, IE overwhelmingly white. He might be able to do well in the 1st few states. He will get destroyed on super tuesday though. And with Duval Patrick and Bloomberg jumping in, that might undermine pete and drop him back. 

I would agree with that assessment. Her plan to pay for it was a cop out. It relied on savings from immigration reform and a head tax on companies that will obviously fall on workers. But it lets her say the magic words that she won't raise taxes on workers, at least directly. Her implementation plan is also really dumb. 

Biden's support is tricky. He is kind of the candidate for old people. If you look at his support, it is almost exclusively from people over 50. Basically, people who have already built up their life in the current system and are afraid of change. But there are very few people who are excited about him. If you go to a Sanders or Warren or even a Butigieg rally, you will see lots of people who are excited by their candidate. You see almost none of that from biden supporters. It will be interesting to see what kind of turnout he supporters will have. 

Ok, that is interesting that Bernie supporters would go for Biden instead of Warren. Biden's policies are much different than Bernie's, while Warren is just a slightly more moderate version of Bernie. Doesn't make much sense to me, but if that is what the polls are saying, I guess that is how it is.

I felt Pete might have a chance if he wins Iowa because historically, that is how it has gone with Democrat primaries. The only anomalies have been Bill Clinton and Howard Dean. I don't feel like the demographics are a big player because this is the trend and the demographics of those states haven't radically changed as they have in Texas, Arizona, and California.

Yeah, Obama was the "Change" man. Biden doesn't really act like he wants to deviate from the status quo, so I doubt that he will get Obama's turnout.

That isn't really true. Warren and Sanders are quite different. She has also been fairly inconsistent on issues. She was also a republican for most of her life. Many progressives don't trust her. 

Recent polls have put butigieg at less than 1% support among black people. He recently put out a plan for how he would help black people, then sent out a letter showing all the black people who supported the plan. The problem was that half the people on the list were white. And of the 4 headline people they were touting, literally none of them endorsed Pete, 1 had already endorsed Sanders. Only 1 even supported his plan. He outright lied about having black support, to make it look like he had black support. With numbers like that, he has no chance at all. 

It's also a little weird that so many black people like him. Obama picked him because he was as white as they come. He is also pretty right wing in the democratic party. I mean he pushed Reagan further right in the war on drugs, which was catastrophic for black people. But the media basically wont say a bad word about him. Biden pushed policies for decades that cracked down on black people. 

Plus, fascism isn't right-wing. It you actually knew what it was, you would understand that.

It's an economy where the poor are taxed at 40% rates so the government can provide mandatory services.

That will never happen in the land of the free. Taxes are still optional for the poor in the USA through Lottery games and Powerball, and none of the services are mandatory.

Socialism died with the Obama-lie about keeping existing choices for services.

Americans are way too hooked on choices.

They both want a wealth tax, higher taxes on the rich, higher corporate taxes, and ultimately, universal healthcare, loan forgiveness of some sort(Bernie wants all forgiven), and free college. I don't think Warren was ever a Republican. I personally hate both, but I like Bernie a little better. He seems genuine, and I think that he would actually do some good attacking special interests. It is just that I hate about 9/10 of his other policies and therefore couldn't see myself ever supporting him.

I mean, if Pete wins the primary, he gets de facto support because of voting demographics. African Americans vote over 90% Democrat since the 1960s. Maybe turnout would be lower, but they wouldn't vote for Trump.

Yeah, he has a really good record on women's rights, I have heard and choppy on supposedly "racist" policies. Why does making drugs illegal necessarily have to be anti-black? Do black people use drugs more often?

They have some overlap in policies. But they are radically different in their approaches. Warren wants to cozy up to the democratic establishment. Bernie wants their corrupt asses to actually do what the people want. Warren will bend when the establishment refuses to play along. Sanders wont. 

That's a bit of a catch 22. he needs to win the primary to get any kind of support from black people. but he needs support from black people to win the primary. He can't win unless black people decide to support a small town white mayor whose short political history does not show him doing well for black people. 

Making drugs illegal isn't necessarily anti-black. But setting harsh punishments is. White people, and especially white people with money are much less likely to have the harshest penalties enforces on them. Black people, and especially poor black people, are much more likely to have the book thrown at them for drug crimes. So the war on drugs fell disproportionately hard on people of color. It has destroyed alot of lives in those communities. Highlighting Biden's role in pushing for the harshest war on drugs he could get would be really bad for him if he managed to win the primary.