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@ILikePie5
Mafia don’t have to kill him. Their win condition is different lol
Yes, they do, because we'll lynch him if they don't. We're forcing them to lose unless they NK him
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@Speedrace
EXACTLY. Which is why Mafia has to kill him because they don't want to lose. If they don't kill him, he has to be Mafia and doesn't want to kill himself. You see?
No lol that’s not how it works. Mafia wincondition is different. You wanting to lynch If the Jester is alive is stupid
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@Speedrace
Yes, they do, because we'll lynch him if they don't. We're forcing them to lose unless they NK him
You’re possibly forcing us to lose too lol
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@ILikePie5
WHICH IS WHY I'M FORCING THEM TO KILL THE JESTER so that he doesn't get lynched. This is what I'm telling Mafia:No lol that’s not how it works. Mafia wincondition is different. You wanting to lynch If the Jester is alive is stupid
"If you don't kill the Jester, YOU WILL LOSE THE GAME because we'll lynch him. Therefore, you HAVE TO NK the jester or lose"
Mafia doesn't WANT to NK jester, but they HAVE TO so they they don't lose
You’re possibly forcing us to lose too lol
Only if Mafia throws
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@Lunatic
Can the jester joint win with town or mafia?
What does a motivator do? I couldn't find it in the list of roles.
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@SirAnonymous
Let's someone do an action twice
Never mind, I found it.
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@SirAnonymous
Assuming it can't joint win (it can't but I'll wait for Lunatic to confirm), will you back me on this?
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@Speedrace
What did you do with your second action?
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@SirAnonymous
I waived
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@Speedrace
Only if Mafia throws
No there’s a course of action that benefits mafia, but I’m not gonna give them any ides, cause we have inexperience amongst our midst to an extent. I’m likely the NK target anyways because of the fact they took out experience.
Right now we should focus on the fact that there are three people that can be mafia: Me, SA, and Press. Most likely it’s between me and SA.
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@SirAnonymous
Can the jester joint win with town or mafia?
No. They win above town or mafia if they’re lynched meaning they can’t joint win.
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@ILikePie5
The only way they can get out of this is if they're a role cop, already role copped Press, and know he's not a Jester. That's incredibly unlikely
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@Speedrace
The only way they can get out of this is if they're a role cop, already role copped Press, and know he's not a Jester. That's incredibly unlikely
Dude, I don’t understand what your point is. Mafia don’t have to kill Press if he’s the Jester. If you do vote for him tomorrow you’re likely screwing us over.
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@Speedrace
@SirAnonymous
Its idiotic to lynch when a Jester is alive.
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@ILikePie5
Dude. We're saying to Mafia, you HAVE TO KILL THE JESTER or we will lynch him and you'll lose. Do they have to kill jester for their son condition? No, of course not, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying we're forcing their hand and MAKING them kill the jester because they'll lose if they don't
Here is the way I see it. We know Speed is town. We know Water is town because of Speed. We know I'm town because of this from Pie:
I chose Drafter and you. Y’all’s affiliation was the same, hence you’re town.
If this is a lie, Pie is scum. Thus, the only two options for scum are Pie and Press. Since Press claimed jester, our best bet is to lynch Pie first to avoid risking a 3rd-party win, then lynch Press next round because he would be the only possible option. This plan is further supported by the scum slip that Pie just made.
Right now we should focus on the fact that there are three people that can be mafia: Me, SA, and Press. Most likely it’s between me and SA.
But three pages earlier, he said that I was confirmed town in the first quote I quoted. VTL ILikePie5
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@ILikePie5
Do you not see how we're forcing Mafia's hand here? If Press doesn't die, HE must therefore be Mafia. Unless Mafia throws, this is a flawless plan
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@SirAnonymous
"you" for Pie was me, not you lol
Whoops! I didn't notice that.
You're right. In the comment right above that one, he replied to me, so I didn't look carefully and thought the one below it was also to me.
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@SirAnonymous
If this is a lie, Pie is scum. Thus, the only two options for scum are Pie and Press. Since Press claimed jester, our best bet is to lynch Pie first to avoid risking a 3rd-party win, then lynch Press next round because he would be the only possible option. This plan is further supported by the scum slip that Pie just made.
It was directed to Speed lol
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@ILikePie5
My bad.
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@Speedrace
Dude. We're saying to Mafia, you HAVE TO KILL THE JESTER or we will lynch him and you'll lose. Do they have to kill jester for their son condition? No, of course not, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying we're forcing their hand and MAKING them kill the jester because they'll lose if they don't
Ya we’ll lose too. Doesn’t matter to mafia. To them y’all dug your own grave lmao
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@SirAnonymous
My bad.
You’re good, it happens
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@ILikePie5
Ya we’ll lose too. Doesn’t matter to mafia. To them y’all dug your own grave lmao
Yes, that's why I said it's flawless unless they throw. If they throw then we lose to, but they lose as well. That's the risk, but I'm counting on Mafia wanting to win
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@Speedrace
What if they think you're bluffing and that you'll pull back when the next DP comes around?
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@SirAnonymous
I have no reason to bluff. If I get two other people to agree with me, then Mafia has to NK press. If not, the only logical solution is that he himself must be Mafia