Thoughts on Bloomberg getting into the race

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"The United States National Health Care Act or Expanded and Improved Medicare for All Act is a bill first introduced in the United States House of Representatives by former Representative John Conyers "
You linked to the wrong the bill. That is a different health care bill. I believe this is the correct one. 

This doesn't disagree with what I said.

Sorry, you wrote "think thanks". I may have misunderstood what you were trying to say. 

This is wrong. When he was stating the ACA was a right wing proposal he was talking about how Republicans were for it in the past. When he was talking about the left wing position that the government provides healthcare he was comparing it to other regions. 
I'm not sure what you are disagreeing with. The UK has a left wing healthcare system. Medicare for all is a compromise between than and the free market healthcare system. That is what he was saying.

He was saying that Medicare for All was the middle ground between right and left wing proposals.
No he didn't.
He literally said medicare for all was the compromise position. Are you disagreeing that he said that?

This is the problem. Instead of actually finding him against medicare for all you are assuming he is.
He released a plan that is not a single payer system. That is not medicare for all. His official campaign position is that american should not have a single payer system. I am not assuming he is against it. His official position is that he isn't for it. His official position a year ago is that he was for it. 

I admitted that Bernie hasn't proposed anything socialist but you can't even admit that you have no proof that Pete is against medicare for all. 
His campaign policy position isn't proof? I will admit he doesn't make statements where he will directly say he opposes it. But that is more coldly poll tested positioning. He campaigns for a slight modification of the ACA. But if he came out and said he didn't want Medicare for all, he would get roasted for it. 

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I think he was just making fun of the guy's name, not making a gay joke. 
Use this same argument for Nazis. 

Instead of a gay joke it could be jews being cooked in the oven. If you don't agree with nazis joking about jewish people then you shouldn't agree with this. The best thing for him to do is to not say it again. Given it isn't really a popular platform or is an authority on this site his harm is redeemable. 
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Instead of a gay joke it could be jews being cooked in the oven. If you don't agree with nazis joking about jewish people then you shouldn't agree with this.
But if he didn't remember he was gay when he made the joke, then it is in no way way homophobic. It is just childish. You are ascribing malice to something you have no evidence that there was malice behind. 

If he knowingly made a joke intended to be about his sexuality, then yes that is really shitty. If he was just making a childish joke about his name (which seems to be the case) then you are reading way too much into it. And the nazi comparison is just super over the top. 
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You linked to the wrong the bill. That is a different health care bill. I believe this is the correct one. 
So just because it doesn't have Sanders on it, it isn't a medicare for all policy?
Please give me something better than that.
Sorry, you wrote "think thanks". I may have misunderstood what you were trying to say. 
Yeah I should've said think tanks.
I'm not sure what you are disagreeing with. The UK has a left wing healthcare system. Medicare for all is a compromise between than and the free market healthcare system. That is what he was saying.
If we are strictly comparing medicare for all to only the US then this is a far left position. If we are comparing this to the UK it would be a middle position or politically unchangeable. If lets say conservatives decide to reduce spending people would vote for labour. I think that would happen.
He literally said medicare for all was the compromise position. Are you disagreeing that he said that?
Him saying is in reference too comparing it to the UK and private healthcare. It would be in the middle because the US are not starting their own NHS. 
He released a plan that is not a single payer system.
Link. 
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But if he didn't remember he was gay when he made the joke, then it is in no way way homophobic.
Okay then a Nazi can say he forgot that he was making a jew joke. Would you give them the same leeway? 
You are ascribing malice to something you have no evidence that there was malice behind. 
Who said I was ascribing malice? I never made that claim. Please read what I said before.
And the nazi comparison is just super over the top.
It is a hypothetical. If you can't engage with it then it isn't my fault. 

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So just because it doesn't have Sanders on it, it isn't a medicare for all policy?
Please give me something better than that.
If the other candidates were in favor of a very similar single payer system then I wouldn't be so critical. i have no issue with them making adjustments. But to gut the system of it's primary feature is to completely change the bill. If it isn't a single payer system, then it isn't medicare for all.

If we are strictly comparing medicare for all to only the US then this is a far left position.
Incorrect. Just because no one in the US is actively pushing for the far left position doesn't make a moderate position the far left. By your logic we would just need to find a few people saying we need an NHS style system and magically it makes Medicare for all the moderate position. 

Link.
Here is a link to an article discussing his plan. He essentially just wants to extend the ACA a bit further. He is not advocating for a single payer system. He wants healthcare to still be dominated by private insurance companies, though he certainly wouldn't admit to that openly.
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Just because no one in the US is actively pushing for the far left position doesn't make a moderate position the far left.
Who said anything about pushing?
I am saying if on one side we had the NHS and on the other private insurance. That would mean medicare for all would be in the middle. 
Okay. Pete doesn't have a single player system which is medicare for all. 
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I am saying if on one side we had the NHS and on the other private insurance. That would mean medicare for all would be in the middle. 
NHS is the left wing solution to the issue. No government involvement at all would be the right wing solution. Medicare for all is the middle ground between those 2 points. You appear to be arguing that since no one is advocating for a truly left wing solution, that Medicare for all is by default the left wing solution. I can see how people who want to paint it as an extreme measure would want to do that. But if you showed those people what an actually left wing policy would look like, they would probably faint. 

Okay. Pete doesn't have a single player system which is medicare for all. 
I'm not sure what your point is, it appears to be contradictory. Medicare for all is a single payer system. Pete doesn't want that. Therefore he is not for medicare for all. You cannot be for Medicare for All but against a single payer system.