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stop spamming Jesus

Did Bevin had a tough Primary, yes yes he did, Trump didnt, case closed!!
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well you think that one thing is sure if you under estimate your enemy you are toast, 2016 proved that to the democrats
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Tell me one potential rival for trump in the primaries
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Bernie , Biden , Warren , hARRIS , ANYONE OF THEM CAN TAKE THAT CLOWN down, the buttegag guy with the gay wife could
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A one world government would be the forerunner to the apocalypse Jesus spoke about.

Why do you take Jesus seriously and how is he qualified in talking about politics? 
If you don't know why I take Jesus seriously, you're too ill informed for the answer to the question.

I will say to you though that what you believe is not reality because you believe it, and it is certainly not reality for others.

Nihilism eh? Really?
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You seem like a reasonable guy, how come you can't see what you're doing?

You are convicting Trump as a warmonger  simply for "considering" one of his options?

For using a strategy against North Korea that worked and brought them to the negotiating table when no other president could?

He has not intervened anywhere, but you still find ridiculous things to accuse him of. Noninterventionist doesn't mean one will not intervene under any condition.

You are being grossly unfair here, and its sad I have to say that to you. I didn't think you had TDS, but it appears you're only able to cover it better than Paul and nihilist.
 



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A one world government would be the forerunner to the apocalypse Jesus spoke about. I will fight against it with everything I have.

How does a government have anything to do with the apocalypse? Those 2 concepts are completely unrelated.
Really? Wars remained small and localized until there were governments. Governments enabled war to advance to the apocalyptic scale. 

What is it with liberals and big government?

Because in a democracy, the people get a strong say in how things are run and what the priorities are. If you have weak government,...
Notice, Gentle Reader, that HB equates small government with weak governments. 

[I'd rather not leave] it to people who don't care if I live or die. 
How would a big (not weak) government ensure that people in it cared if you live or died? Notice that the number of Americans dying for no logical reason has increased as the size of the American government has increased.

Reality is a thing HB.
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I'm actually okay with more drone strikes if it ends the conflict Obama started.
And if fewer civilians and more terrorists are killed.
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Immigrants.

Illegal immigrants. There’s a difference
Not to liberal democrats.

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it to me is pathetic that a grwon up would beleive some fairy tale ,
Lucky for me, your opinion matters little to my life, even if you think it should.

do you know how many times the bible has been translated and changed
Not only do I know the bible and its history better than you, I'm probably better educated in general than you.

...you are beyond sad and pathetic i have no respect for you.
As I wasn't seeking your respect, I don't think I'll be shedding any tears.

i gladly side with lord satan, your god sucks 9 year old cock
Yeah, I certainly don't deserve as much respect as you.

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i love cnn by the way if you ridicule this wonderful source i will block you , how dare you qustion the true source...
Lol. How many times now has CNN had to fire crooked reporters or recant a fake news story?

In the echo chamber, TDS flourishes.


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@ethang5
A one world government would be the forerunner to the apocalypse Jesus spoke about.
How?
If you don't know why I take Jesus seriously, you're too ill informed for the answer to the question.
I guessing you put your belief over what is the most reasonable right?
I will say to you though that what you believe is not reality because you believe it, and it is certainly not reality for others.
Conjecture.
Nihilism eh? Really?
At least I don't believe in God and assume they are good.
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A one world government would be the forerunner to the apocalypse Jesus spoke about.

How?

If you don't know why I take Jesus seriously, you're too ill informed for the answer to the question.

I guessing you put your belief over what is the most reasonable right?
I put my belief way over what you think is the most reasonable, sure. Did you expect something else?

I will say to you though that what you believe is not reality because you believe it, and it is certainly not reality for others.

Conjecture.
What you believe is not reality because you believe it, and is not reality for others, is conjecture? Lol, perhaps you have a private meaning for the word "conjecture"?

Nihilism eh? Really?

At least I don't believe in God and assume they are good.
So your belief is good because.... you believe it. Lol. OK man.

I get it.
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I don't see why you are copying the entire thing. You will eventually reach the character limit while also filling up half the page with stuff that isn't even your reply.
I put my belief way over what you think is the most reasonable, sure. Did you expect something else?
I don't put weight into some guy that you idolize over qualified people today just because you have no proof but believe he is Godly.
What you believe is not reality because you believe it, and is not reality for others, is conjecture? Lol, perhaps you have a private meaning for the word "conjecture"?
Conjecture: an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.
It doesn't matter what I can believe. It matters what I can prove if we both care about fact. If you don't then just say so. Now if you do care about fact tell me how Jesus resurrected. I'll wait.
So your belief is good because.... you believe it. Lol. OK man.
So your belief is good because you assign something of value even though you can't prove it exists. Lol. I'll wait for you to prove to me God exists. If you don't care about the facts just tell me. 

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I don't see why you are copying the entire thing.
And when I begin to post based on what you "see", I'll do that.

I put my belief way over what you think is the most reasonable, sure. Did you expect something else?

I don't put weight into some guy that you idolize over qualified people today just because you have no proof but believe he is Godly.
OK. It was nice to know what you don't do?

What you believe is not reality because you believe it, and is not reality for others, is conjecture? Lol, perhaps you have a private meaning for the word "conjecture"?
Conjecture: an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.
So that your beliefs are different from reality is an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information?

Tell me, is your belief reality? If yes, will I stop existing if you stop believing?

It doesn't matter what I can believe.
If you think reality and your beliefs are the same thing, it matters a lot.

Now if you do care about fact tell me how Jesus resurrected. I'll wait.
His heart began to beat, He opened his eyes and stood up. He then walked out of the tomb. I hope the wait wasn't too long for you.

At least I don't believe in God and assume they are good.
So your belief is good because.... you believe it. Lol. OK man.

So your belief is good because you assign something of value even though you can't prove it exists.
I have not told why I believe what I do. And you do not yet know what I can or cannot prove. Your belief is not reality.

If you disagree about why you believe what you do, say why. Don't try to assume my position for me.

Lol. I'll wait for you to prove to me God exists. If you don't care about the facts just tell me. 
Can you prove to me abiogenesis exists? Can you prove to me dark matter exists?
Can you prove to me your spleen exists?

You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you on the nose. You don't know me and have never talked to me, but you're already convinced I'm wrong. Do you know what that tells me about your objectivity?

You're like the racist who asks for "facts" that blacks are intelligent. You just know what he's going to think of the facts.

So you prove to me that you know what facts are by proving dark matter, abiogenesis, and your spleen exists, and I will give you my evidence that God exists.

Take your time. Like you, I can wait.

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what i think is we need to do away with the electoral college and go to a strait popular vote, the electoral college is a disgraceful vestige of a backward time
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Small states will form their own nation then. 
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looking forward to it
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Good, liberal dystopias can live guilt-free like Venezuela.

Golden shower state.



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A one world government would be the forerunner to the apocalypse Jesus spoke about.
Take your mythical Jesus to the religion forum,
......where all the unicorns and extraterrestrials live fictitious lives.
.............in minds of mostly,
.................mentally ill humans, praying that,
....................the swarms of Mexicans will not come to USA.

Oh yeah, their already here for last 50 years, along with Chinese for last 200 years.

Apocalypitic Pence and his immoral inaction to Trumpity Dumpity  is the next greatest chance for fire-and-brimstone non-sense.

Heaven help us cause these immoral Trumpanzee cult religion is dam-nation knocking at the door of 7.5 billion humans.

There is not going to be a Moon or Mars space colony to save those cultist members who sniff and eat Trumps solid waste deposits for breakfest, lunch and dinner.  


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I put my belief way over what you think is the most reasonable, sure. Did you expect something else?
Basically irrational. Pretty much admitting here that it doesn't matter what the facts are. It matters if it conforms to my beliefs. You just copied your last response. I am guessing I must hit a nerve or this must be the extent of how much your belief helps you conform with reality.
OK. It was nice to know what you don't do?
Please tell me how you don't do this.
So that your beliefs are different from reality is an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information?
It wasn't my belief that Jesus didn't resurrect. It is a fact. You are basing your belief of Christianity on incomplete information. Not like you care.
Tell me, is your belief reality? If yes, will I stop existing if you stop believing?
No I am speaking about the conclusion part. Conclusions can be factual as in ethang5 has 2,005 forum posts.
If you think reality and your beliefs are the same thing, it matters a lot.
I don't think that. To you it doesn't matter because you don't care about reality. Only if it conforms to your beliefs. I take the position what is most reasonable is that Jesus didn't resurrect. This goes against the teachings of Christianity so by you having Protestantism as your Religious affiliation clearly shows you don't care about reality.
His heart began to beat, He opened his eyes and stood up. He then walked out of the tomb. I hope the wait wasn't too long for you.
Is your ability to believe also impacting your view of evidence? This isn't evidence by the way. The only way you can prove it is with science and even then you won't concede Jesus's supposed resurrection is repeatable because that is Jesus' claim to being more than human. You can here do what no other irrational Religious person has done which is find the evidence for this or talk about well there are plenty of others things that Jesus has done that would be considered supernatural and waste both of our times.
So your belief is good because.... you believe it. Lol. OK man.
So your belief is good because I am attaching it to something I can't prove it exists? OK man.
I have not told why I believe what I do. And you do not yet know what I can or cannot prove. Your belief is not reality.
Your profile has already stated it for you: 
Religion: Protestantism
Are you too much of a coward to defend the very Religion you are apart of? Maybe Harikrish's conspiracy theories have some credibility to them.
If you disagree about why you believe what you do, say why. Don't try to assume my position for me.
Is this actually the best you got? Instead of defending your beliefs you are resorting to well you don't know what I believe so you can't talk about it. This is lazy and actually really boring. Why not try next time?
Can you prove to me abiogenesis exists? Can you prove to me dark matter exists?
Can you prove to me your spleen exists?
Wait what? So you can't be bothered to defend your Religion but you can't be bothered to ask me questions and expect me to answer them? It isn't how it works. I know you don't like answering questions but don't expect me if you won't. You know I would stop talking to you if you tell me I can't defend my beliefs. Just those words would be enough. 
You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you on the nose.
I ask you to defend the very thing you believe in yet you can't. How faulty must your belief be that one line of questioning destroys it? 
You're like the racist who asks for "facts" that blacks are intelligent. You just know what he's going to think of the facts.
This isn't a fact. We do not have a good measurement for intelligence and people who compare race to intelligence have no scientific backing. The claim would only work if I was living in Nazi Germany not now when scientific racism is outlawed for how irrational it is.
So you prove to me that you know what facts are by proving dark matter, abiogenesis, and your spleen exists, and I will give you my evidence that God exists.
This isn't how it works. If you can't defend your beliefs. I understand. Your beliefs must really be weak to have to be pivoting to a new topic entirely. Who would have thought having reality conform to your beliefs was difficult. I did and I have made it clear here that you can't even answer 1 question about your beliefs. 

I'll wait.
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I put my belief way over what you think i, sure. Did you expect something else?

Basically irrational. 
I think placing my belief way over what you think is the most reasonable is very rational.

Pretty much admitting here that it doesn't matter what the facts are.
No, the facts are not what your beliefs are.

Please tell me how you don't do this.
I'm not an idiot.

It wasn't my belief that Jesus didn't resurrect. It is a fact.
And why is it a fact? Because you believe it? Can we say circular?

You are basing your belief of Christianity on incomplete information. Not like you care.
You haven't a clue on what I base my belief. And true, I don't care for what you assume.

Tell me, is your belief reality? If yes, will I stop existing if you stop believing?

No I am speaking about the conclusion part.
Your beliefs are not reality, no matter how strongly you believe them.

I take the position what is most reasonable is that Jesus didn't resurrect. 
Thanks for telling us your "position" on Jesus' resurrection. Is it supposed to be relevant to me somehow?

This isn't evidence by the way.
You didn't ask for evidence, you asked how Jesus resurrected. If you have a question on religious doctrine or teaching, the religion board is more appropriate.

The only way you can prove it is with science
Why do you keep telling us your opinions? Is it supposed to be relevant to us  somehow?

you won't concede Jesus's supposed resurrection is repeatable..
Lol! As in bring Jesus back, killing Him again, and then having Him resurrect? No I certainly won't concede that.

You can here do what no other irrational Religious person has done...
And what is that? Jump through your hoops as if we're seeking your validation? Or pretend you can sit in judgement of our belief as if you're a judge?

Is this actually the best you got? Instead of defending your beliefs you are resorting to well you don't know what I believe so you can't talk about it. 
You didn't just talk about it. You assumed you know what it is. You don't.

This is lazy and actually really boring. Why not try next time?
If I care more about your personal opinion next time, I will.

Are you too much of a coward to defend the very Religion you are apart of?
They have a religion board for that genius. And have you found that 3rd grade taunts work for you?

Can you prove to me abiogenesis exists? Can you prove to me dark matter exists?
Can you prove to me your spleen exists?

Wait what?
Did I stammer?

So you can't be bothered to defend your Religion
Who lied to you and told you I was defense and you were offence? Can you prove those things? Yes or no?

It isn't how it works.
Liberals are always surprised to find out they aren't the boss. Lol.

I know you don't like answering questions but don't expect me if you won't.
OK.

You know I would stop talking to you if you tell me I can't defend my beliefs.
So far it's been you chasing me around the board. I don't care if you stop talking to me or not. You think the only reason I'm not doing what you want is because I cannot defend my beliefs. That no other reason occurs to you justifies my not doing what you want.

I ask you to defend the very thing you believe in yet you can't.
Or I won't. But "can't" fits your little anti-theist worldview better right? If you were sincerely searching for a defense of the Christian worldview, you would do 2 things.

First, you would not demand it like you're some sort of authority that I must answer upon demand, and second, you would take it to the appropriate forum. There is a reason we have different boards for different subjects you know.

How faulty must your belief be that one line of questioning destroys it? 
Lol. Now my beliefs have been "destroyed", all without me even stating them. You must be an awesome debater!

We do not have a good measurement for intelligence and people who compare race to intelligence have no scientific backing.
How about people who compare religion to intelligence, do they have scientific backing?

The claim would only work ...
I did not call you a racist Cletus. I said you would reject the evidence you asked for similar to racist asking for evidence that blacks are intelligent knowing he will reject whatever evidence is offered.

So you prove to me that you know what facts are by proving dark matter, abiogenesis, and your spleen exists, and I will give you my evidence that God exists.

This isn't how it works.
Sez who? You aren't the boss. You aren't in charge. If you can't show me that you know what facts are, I will not waste time with you. I am not going to live forever.

If you can't defend your beliefs. I understand. 
If you don't know what facts are, I will understand why you'd be ashamed to admit it.

Your beliefs must really be weak to have to be pivoting to a new topic entirely.
You are asking me to prove Jesus resurrected on the politics board, and then saying I'm the one pivoting?

Who would have thought having reality conform to your beliefs was difficult.
Liberals try it all the time.

I did and I have made it clear here that you can't even answer 1 question about your beliefs. I'll wait.
If I can't, what are you waiting for?

When you realize that I am unmoved by childish goading, and answer my questions to you, we'll progress. Till then, I hope you have a great meaningless life, Mr. Real Nihilist.

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mob rule is great when you are part of the mob/majority  they would cry a different tune when they are in the minority, which is why the electoral college exists, why is that such a difficult concept for them to understand?  ignorance, selfishness, stupidity?  all of them plus more?
why aren't they rushing to California, N.Y., Illinois?  They can have most of what they want in those states with no need to worry about federal elections.
what they desire basically exists in those states, so move to them and leave the rest of us t.f. alone.
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Exactly. TDS people are so fucking dumb. Trump isn't stopping states like California from becoming ultra socialist. 

Did you hear about this story?

Trump had absolutely NOTHING to do with that local CITY rejecting socialism.
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what would concern me is that I would even have to vote or entertain anything like that.
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The very idea that a person would look to the Federal government to manage things like healthcare when they can't get support to get the State government to manage healthcare is ridiculous.

Mass isn't waiting for Obamacare. If you want "free" healthcare, and you like the government in charge, and you enjoy paying taxes, you can move to Massachusetts and pay the local taxes and sign up for government-funded insurance.
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A one world government would be the forerunner to the apocalypse Jesus spoke about.

Take your mythical Jesus to the religion forum,
Another confused liberal who thinks he rules. I was asked a question Jethro, and I answer questions in the thread I'm asked. Deal with it.

...a Moon or Mars space colony...
Take your mythical spaceman to the technology forum Jethro.
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What I meant to say was that Mass was not waiting around for Trump to get impeached to move forward on Socialism.

Instead of staying glued to the TV soaking in CNN predictions on the latest Trump gossip, voters could actually be asking the State government for real Socialism instead. 

Trump has no power to stop a state from going full retard Socialist.
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Didn't Mass. decide medicare for all wouldn't work and it was too expensive?  At one time they were going to do it but then saw the light, but I haven't really kept current with that.  Aren't they the #1 most taxed/expensive state to live in?  Not something to brag about imo.
If they want to use that state as an experiment, case study go for it, no point in ruining the rest of the country.