Office Mafia DP3

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@oromagi
Fine. I do have justification. Why the boss would be tracker is obvious, but it is because mike is all up in everyone's cool aid and tryi g to figure out the flavor I stead of being up in his own cool aid. Now stop being g silly. You know I am town and I k ow you k ow and we both know you are being stubborn 
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@drafterman
yeah yeah, we know how you tunnel from DP1 lol 
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@drafterman
I know you think Im scum, but assuming I die and am town who do you go after next?
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@Lunatic
Is there a reason you wanted to vote Supa when the unofficial vote count was 6/6 ?
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@Greyparrot
I wanted to lynch supa on the first page of DP2
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@Lunatic
Yeah but warren posted a 6/6, then you seemed to feel compelled to add another one. Did you miss warren's post?
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@Greyparrot
that day phase happened in a day, I was in the middle of a jackbox game with airmax lol. I would have voted him sooner if I was on
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@Wylted
I read your analysis. It is shit. If you are around tomorrow still I can point out the intentional logical fallacies. Fallacies that are in actuality beneath you. Sometimes I will mock town players by saying the logic they use is beneath them and feigning a scum tell on them so I can hopefully encourage them to be more rational. You though, I think you are more rational than I am. You commit less fallacies, are more careful with your logic
Fallacies? The majority of my lynch on drafter is suspecting a bus on SA that he makes pretty obvious. He definitely uses that lynch to get town cred, and is pretty strongly advocating it despite admitting it was a weak lynch. Feel free to go over it piece by piece and explain why you think it's wrong, but forgive me for not taking this post seriously. I somehow doubt you actually read the case.

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Is anyone taking Lunatics analysis seriously? I've gotten into some tough knock down drag out fights with him in the past and they aren't pleasant. I really don't want to have to keep ripping things apart unless he's actually duped people into believing him.
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@drafterman
Just curious do you actually have a case to lynch me other than "He voted arose DP1 and now isn't voting him"? That's a pretty weak argument. My choice of voting AROSE was due to the circumstances of his past play not aligning with his current play, and the majority of the people on the SA lynch admitting to thinking the case on him was weak. I found an alternative in AROSE because he was a stronger lynch candidate at the time. I was never 100% confident in him being mafia, and his activity DP2 peaked quite a bit. That said I was still skeptical of him going into DP2, that DP was pretty fast and I never had much of an opportunity to delve into any reads. 

If that is your only reason for wanting to lynch me, I feel that is pretty weak. If you are going to try and lynch me, I'd prefer you at least give something better than that. Especially if I am wrong about you, and you are town. Which I may be, honestly wylted is ringing pretty scummy. 
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@Lunatic
The case against you is that everyone else is town.

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@drafterman
Why is wylted town?

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Just caught up with the DP

I was originally going to vote Lunatic based on Drafter's analysis, but now I'm confused. We have a watcher, tracker, AND a cop? I really think that someone is lying. The way that Warren has messed up twice now with Oro's NP results pretty much confirms his role. That means we know that Wylted HAS an active role, just not what role it is

And then Press' weird behavior DP was extremely confusing since now he's actually confirming people, and I find it very unlikely that scum would risk fake town confirming people

So that really just leaves Wylted. Besides that, Lunatic has been contributing more. I want someone to go over my analysis here to see if they agree or not but right now I'm leaning towards Wylted the most
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@Speedrace
I was originally going to vote Lunatic based on Drafter's analysis, but now I'm confused. 
I appreciate you not voting me yet, but I do have to ask, what "analysis" of drafters are you referring to?

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@Lunatic
Mostly post 44 and 50

That wall of text point he made is actually pretty relevant
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@Speedrace
Watcher, tracke, cop is not op, especially if they had a ninja, roleblocker, and a third role (probably lawyer, framer, or God father)
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@Speedrace
44 is a defense against my case not an analysis of his. Post 50 can be summed up to "Lunatic is scummy for not tunneling the same person the whole game" which amounts to his entire reason for wanting to lynch me.

The only thing I can think of you mean by 'wall of text' is his response to his reasons for voting SA. The wall of text he refers to isnt a case against SA its literally just a post with timestamps of other people voting. His reasons for the SA lynch were pretty limited/weak. 
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@Lunatic
His analysis helped get me over my reservations on lynching Sir. Before that, he was basically sheeping, which gave me pause.
You know, just like all the sheep on your wagon should have given you pause.

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@Lunatic
If the speed of Sirs wagon (days)b you, why didn't the speed of AROSE (10 hours)?
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Bothered you*
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Busy today but I'll try to get back on later
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@warren42
When does the DP end?
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@drafterman

His analysis helped get me over my reservations on lynching Sir. Before that, he was basically sheeping, which gave me pause.
You know, just like all the sheep on your wagon should have given you pause.


Didn't you "big wall o'text" prove that just about the majority of all votes were sheep votes? The sheep votes are bothersome all the way around, the bigger problem was the lack of a real case or reason to lynch SA. You were his biggest advocate and even yourself seemed to have thought the lynch was weak. Nothing about SA's behavior had changed from when you said that to the end of the DP when he ended up being lynched.
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@drafterman
If the speed of Sirs wagon (days)b you, why didn't the speed of AROSE (10 hours)?
I never said the speed of the wagon was an issue. My issue was and always has been the reasons for the lynch. Time was only an element to prove there was enough of it to get a different lynch, a concept that you seemed to be driving into people's heads that there wasn't enough of it. As if steering away from that lynch was going to result us in a no lynch. I proved that wrong, and came pretty close to getting AROSE lynched DP1. While I am glad you ended up bussing your team mate in the end, I definitely think it showed the whole "changing lynch targets mid day phase" isn't impossible. 

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I am going back to drafter.There is definitely a bigger argument for drafter being scum right now, he is way more diabolical and calculated. Wylted's behavior is extremely anti-town, but Im not so sure he is capable of pro town plays even as town. 

unvote, VTL drafterman.
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@Lunatic
I never said the speed of the wagon was an issue.

Literally from your analysis:

What changed my mind was the fact that he was at L-1 with only a day left, and most of the wagon felt very rushed.

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He's literally lying about his own analysis now.

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@drafterman
Rushed, as in people were voting with a day and a half left and talking as if we had no other option. 

He's literally lying about his own analysis now.
This is such a manipulative statement that literally dis-regards the bulk of my analysis. This seems sad and desperate.
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@Lunatic
On the slim chance you are town, I hope this puts to bed this "omg no rushing, use every last second of the day phase emrergerd!" Nonsense. 
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@drafterman
On the slim chance you are town, I hope this puts to bed this "omg no rushing, use every last second of the day phase emrergerd!" Nonsense. 
While I never said that we have to use every last second of the day phase, your argument is completely invalid in context to this game. If I felt confident enough about SA's lynch, I would have been more than happy to end the phase early. We did that last phase. If you are actually town, you got very lucky on the SA lynch. I think it's more likely that you manufactured that lynch for town cred. However, if we are both town and I'm still willing to debate you on whether rushing lynches is a good idea or not. Or however you want to phrase the resolution. If you actually are town, the lynch on SA still didn't make much sense and was lazy.