Office Mafia DP3

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@drafterman
Hey drafterman, if you are town, do I have permission in the endgame to give you the same lecture you gave me in 5D's about being totally unwilling to see yourself as wrong? That game stayed with me and resonated with me as a teaching moment, kinda ironic now that you are the one acting that way. If you are mafia you get a pass.
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@PressF4Respect
No Im not saying people hate his claim. His claim is "hated townie" which means he takes one less vote to lynch.
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@Speedrace
Yeah we would be lynching him. I gave reasons for this.
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@Speedrace

Check out post 524
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@Lunatic
as the only one being wrong, is mis-leading.

Another lie.
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@Lunatic
Yeah I saw. I'm not MAD at it, and I trust you enough both in this game and in general as a player to follow you based on your experience with him, don't think I've even spoken to him outside of this game

It's certainly not strong though
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@Speedrace
What were the results of you tracking Airmax?
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@Speedrace
Sorry I meant visiting
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@PressF4Respect
Lol visiting does nothing
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@Lunatic
Hated townie seems similar to a miller role. You wouldn't want to claim that role too late in the game.
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@PressF4Respect
Are you still claiming Cop? What did you do? Are you something else?
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@Greyparrot
I already gave my results of investigation, but as I'm sure you're aware of, take it with a grain of salt
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I am going to try and do a megapost tomorrow if this do is still going. Before I do that, I want to submit for consideration, not the things Lunatic has said, but HOW he has said them.

I say, "You're wrong."

He replies, "Why do you say ONLY I am wrong."

He takes a real thing, then adds a false qualifier to make me look like I'm being unreasonable and extreme.

There is no reason to do this EXCEPT to present a false misrepresentation to the town. Either I say nothing and someone gets a false perception, or I have to spent time refuting them, further clogging up the DP.


It's insidious and deceitful and NOT explained by him being town and simply viewing me as scum.


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@PressF4Respect
ugh, you're at least consistent.
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@PressF4Respect
I can't find the post where you gave results. Can you say again what you did?
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Drafter I await refuting your megapost. I have substantiated every statement with qoutes and links. 
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@Speedrace
Yeah I saw. I'm not MAD at it, and I trust you enough both in this game and in general as a player to follow you based on your experience with him, don't think I've even spoken to him outside of this game

It's certainly not strong though


You know I'd much prefer to lynch drafter. But I'm trying to be realistic and productive. With everyone where we are at right now, the decision on me and drafter is pretty split. With you unvoting and oromagi wanting a no lynch, I doubt either of us will be lynched. Airmax town reads both of us, that leaves just pressF, who isn't opining for some reason. 2 of the four of you would need to make a decision on one of us and that doesn't look like it's going to happen.

So I'm trying to find an alternative from the undecided voters, see if one of my other reads can work with you guys. My read on max started townie, but the more I have thought about his actions, the more I am leaning scum.
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@Greyparrot
Hated townie seems similar to a miller role. You wouldn't want to claim that role too late in the game.
So given the fact that both me and drafter are unlikely to be lynched this DP, are you willing to look into airmax as an alternative?

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@Lunatic
I gotcha

 if people are going that direction then I’ll support it, I want their input
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@Lunatic
I'm open. Who did Press F say he investigated today?
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Wow. Lunatic has not only derailed the lynch on himself, but is now convincing people to mislynch another town.
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@Lunatic
VTL PRESS

This is ridiculous.
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@Greyparrot
airmax. inno
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@drafterman
press has given way too little info.
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Wow. Lunatic has not only derailed the lynch on himself, but is now convincing people to mislynch another town.
This kind of blanket statement is un-becoming. Tell people why I am wrong. Tell people why you think max is town. 

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@Greyparrot
He's given literally all his reports on people. What else could he possibly tell us?

Again, this idea that he is lying about being cop and is a PGO was something concocted by SupDudz, who was scum.
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If press's cop claim is true, the fact that he's still alive, shows the remaining mafia isn't worried about him. Last mafia is likely godfather or lawyer, results probably don't mean much now.
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@Lunatic
Press has an inno on him.
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@drafterman
If press's cop claim is true, the fact that he's still alive, shows the remaining mafia isn't worried about him. Last mafia is likely godfather or lawyer, results probably don't mean much now.
What's a godfather do?
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@Lunatic
Godfather shows up innocent