Office Mafia Day 1

Not at a computer atm so just responding from my phone.

I dont see what I said about figuring out his playstyle being hypocritical at all. In fact learning about a players behavior tendencies seems more beneficial in the long run then lynching someone for theme info. I would think behavioral changes are monumentally more scummy historically then weak character claim lynches. That was something I learned early on years ago when I lynched airmax for claiming to be an object in f-16s harry potter mafia when everyone else was a human. You can't really argue that arose playstyle is not a stark contrast to the last game where he was town. Investigating why his play might be different here will help out understanding of his play. I wouldn't push the lynch if I saw town motivation for the way he going about this phase and genuinely dont see this as a likely mislynch. 

Anyways looks like I am too late and that SA was hammered. I hope I am the jackass here and you guys proved me wrong on this and he's scum. Airmaxs claim that his role indiciates he could be scum seems the strongest support for his Lynch thus far and airmax himself said that the connection he made is vague.

Guess we'll see.

can you please restate or point to post that succintly states the case for A-R-O-S-E?

now u r just begging 4 sanction

I give my reasons for SA, he turns scum, FOS on Lunatic

Right, but the entirety of the wagon on AROSE is people sheeping you. Doesn't that give you pause, or are you chalking this up to your own force of character?

Nah g

The case against arose in a nutshell is that his playstyle if town is extremely different from those of the last two games he played in. He came in claiming to do his usual gambit in the signups. After roles are handed out and the game starts he retracts that saying he will not be doing his usual gambits. Leads me to assume him being mafia and wanting to lay low this time is the reason. In dark crystal he was a town power role and still used a potentially backfiring gambit in orser to lynch a gut read of his. In this phase he was claiming he simply wasnt going to participate in thr game because it was long. This just doesn't seem like aroses usual town play.

Not unreasonable.  However, a sampling size of three is hard to generalize, particularly when the subject is well motivated to inconsistency.  I'm not good at detecting/projecting moods myself so personality based reads (the core of most exp. players game) are seldom enticing to me.

Behaviorally SA is scum, and quite clearly. This makes me suspicious of you that you seem to be unable to recognize such obvious scum play. Notice his silence now too. Acting just like defeated scum act. Obvious scum is obvious 

I hope you are right.  I'm vague on the utility of your "not VIG" claim

Supadudz is a sheep through and through. Being convinced by an argument is how any lynch is goinf to form. If someone makes a behavioral case in someone that convinces me I might give a. One liner in support and put my vote on said person as well if I agree with what their saying. Press, pie, gp, speed all seem to fit in there. Most of the wagon on SA formed because "well its the only thing we got right now even if its weak" which is a way worse alternative I think.

SA told us last night he wouldn't be active today. And hes probably the second or third most active player in this game regardless. I dont really know how you want him to defend himself. The reasons for his wagon are pretty shite and he already admitted to being a noob and not knosing your not supposed to claim under less than significant pressure. What more do you want from him lol

He just reaction testing him. Thought maybe the fear of death could be simulated and he would be more forthright. I think he is town but want to kill him out of spite for being a dumb ass. When HE Is dead I am sure we will all see how much of a dumb ass he is for suggesting his random role means there is likely no cop. Or we will see he is a dumb ass because he has an investigative role such as one that can reveal an affiliation upon death, but he lacks the cognitive ability to understand basic words like the word "investigative

How about an actual vote?

Hiss claim has nothing to do with the fact his pattern of speaking is unnatural and forced, that he is breaking up reads instead of creating his own or that he is afraid to place a vote all things which are behavioral indications of noob scum, and very obvious in him.

I don't want him to defend himself and could care less if he does. Pretty obvious he is scum. He can't do anymore to tell us he is scum without playing against his wincon 

My "might as well" was I voted him earlier for the reasons stated, but invited to get more information from the DP. The second post drafter references is pretty accurate of my current thought process

I am usually sold on a read. I was sold on DP1 it was SA, we have 11hrs left and the interest level is mildly fading. AROSE is strong scum is SA is town.

I am on the fence null being convinced by other people. i have my reads, but they are not enough to secure someone as mafia. I am being convinced by town at this point to see who to lynch. I am 65% SA, 35% AROSE scum right now, and it is not enough to place my lynch. With the odds, I am willing to bet money whereever town says

forgot to say- your break downs are awesome

May the odds ever be in your favor

I think drafter is one of those odd balls who takes notes on the game. It would take me 3 hours to gather the stuff he put together in that post relatively quickly

Interest is fading? What game are you playing?

reminds of Speed's gigantic odds breakdown a few games back.  Imagine a game of mafia that was all statisticians and analysts.

I'll be on in a few hours when I get to work g2g for a bit. Nothing I say at this juncture really matters though sir was lynched.