Office Mafia Day 1

Incorrect. You know that I am active, but if I miss a DP with 30 pages of sifting, it would be intimidating for me too. But I am would only react to pings

Only if SA is Town. SA has had high participation. Has engaged with users. And has had a chance to formulate reads and respond to others. Yet not a single vote. Doesn't that stick out to you?

Didn’t realize that until you pointed it out

Why haven't you voted?

We have <11 hours. That is the blink of a gnat's eye in DART-time. What are your reads, where do you put your vote?

Are you not concerned Lunatic is playing more protown?

I'm not sure what you are asking here. Why would I be concerned that Lunatic is playing protown? It doesn't make him right.

SA hasn't voted because noon scum want to look like they are not flip flopping. They mistakenly think changing your mind a lot is a scum tell, despite how it is generally more of a town tell.  Noob scum have a tendency to vote less often, rarely change their vote and to avoid wagons where they think the flip will be on a team mate.

SA is also making another scum mistak . Which is trying to appear to be scum hunting by breaking up people's read . I have seen other scum doing it. When you post a read. They want to appear to have genuine dialogue and be hunting so they just attack your premises, and never offer their own analysis. SA did this by attacking somebody's vote (I think Drafters early in DP1) when I was catching up and voted AROSE it occurred. This happened with well explained votes as well.  Honestly it is blatantly clear SA is scum. Maybe I will switch my vote to AROSe later because he is in the same pool, but it is hard to move from somebody who is clearly scum, to somebody I merely have a strong suspicion of. Particularly when the ease of this wagon change would hint that I am wrong about one of these two.

I like this analysis and read. He's certainly entitled to pick apart people's cases against him (or anyone's reads) for that matter, but that he doesn't actually use any of it to do anything in the game (vote or FOS or push for a lynch) is odd.

This solidifies it for me.

Also, I'm not voting SA just so someone besides me is lynched.

Only Arose and Sir aren't voting. Presumably they'd each vote for the other.

That makes oro the kingmaker here.

I'm legit on the edge of my seat before. Not sure this scenario has happened in a long time.

You should probably vote SA. These two competing wagons, usually means only one of you is town, and that the scum have a preference on who gets lynched. Analyzing these wagons after the flip will be useful. I assume you are the one that is town, and there unless SA is in your town pile, you should assist in the lynch

That is interesting 

That at least one of AROSE or SA is scum is a fair judgment. If they were both town, it'd be easy enough for scum to justify switching from one wage to the other.

However, it's possible that they're both scum and scum is helping split the wagons to force a NL.

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I agree. 

"However, it's possible that they're both scum and scum is helping split the wagons to force a NL."

That sound tedious, risky, and a bad bet

Between deciding to lynch Arose or SirA, I'd lynch SirA, having a certainty Arose is town. Clearly, a chance is better than a certainty of a mislynch.

Everyone, note that I'm not just hopping on the wagon at this point.

Actually, when I voted SA I did, and unvoted when I realized I was just swaggin on the wagon.

Well, if I am kingmaker than SirAnonymous is King so I guess this a kind of bsh or fisher king the community must kill for fun and profit. 

SirA’s play has been excellent in spite of newness.  Nevertheless, the AJ claim is suspiciously weak.  I feel like we have to understand whether it’s true or not to disect  the bisect of town.  AROSE have given little cause for lynch & his wagon is my DP2 scum pile starter. 

GG SirAnon was 3rd party jester.

This is the largest game thread since my DnD thread and the largest Mafia thread period.

Seems like Scumteam is coming out of the lurk to finish off SA. I have seen this play before on day 1.

It took, almost literally, the entire 72-hour DP to lynch SA. It took 5 hours to get AROSE to L-2.

You don't see the nuance of what I said, but I am sure Lunatic will get it.

This is such an insanely scummy thing to say.

How so?

There are three scum.

If two are both the focus of a lynch, and your lack of voting would be conspicuous, and you have the opportunity to go on a wagon more likely to force an NL, would you not do it? Would you not avoid bussing when you can?

It's basically a win-win because either wagon you vote on is a wagon for scum so you are, in a sense, bussing no matter which way you go, just one is less successful than the other.