Is morality objective or subjective?

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Should you unjustly treat those who are responsible for your earthly existence and your care with contempt and disrespect, with those who have provided a home for you, providing for your health and safety, food and clothing, as well as guiding you in your moral well-being? 
I think we can agree that each of us should be polite as a general policy.

Are you suggesting that you agree that this (claiming god spoke to you) should be a capital crime, specifically enforced by one's own parents?
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Why would you worship such a god that is both evil and good? 
Isaiah 45:7 King James Version (KJV)
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
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Should you unjustly treat those who are responsible for your earthly existence and your care with contempt and disrespect, with those who have provided a home for you, providing for your health and safety, food and clothing, as well as guiding you in your moral well-being? 
I think we can agree that each of us should be polite as a general policy.
I speak generically and generally. Place yourself in their position. Please refer to the rest of the context. Here it is:

"Then their own parents will stab the one who prophesies."

Are you suggesting that you agree that this (claiming god spoke to you) should be a capital crime, specifically enforced by one's own parents?
What is the context?
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Why would you worship such a god that is both evil and good? 
Isaiah 45:7 King James Version (KJV)
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Funny, the New King James does not even use that archaic language.

Isaiah 45:7 (NKJV)
7 I form the light and create darkness,
I make peace and create calamity;
I, the Lord, do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (NASB)
7 The One forming light and creating darkness,
Causing well-being and creating calamity;
I am the Lord who does all these.

Isaiah 45:7 (NIV)
7 I form the light and create darkness,
    I bring prosperity and create disaster;
    I, the Lord, do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (ESV)
7 I form light and create darkness;
    I make well-being and create calamity;
    I am the Lord, who does all these things.


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Nice.

Your god creates calamity and disaster.

That certainly qualifies as "omnibenevolent".
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Are you suggesting that you agree that this (claiming god spoke to you) should be a capital crime, specifically enforced by one's own parents?
What is the context?
Objective morality is universal and absolute and is the opposite of "situational ethics".

Why would you be concerned about context?

What part of god's law says "kill the child if they strike or curse a parent (unless they have proper and appropriate context of course)"?

Context has nothing to do with god's law.
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Nice.

Your god creates calamity and disaster.

That certainly qualifies as "omnibenevolent".

There is a purpose for it. Justice because of sin. And for any who are not guilty, like little children, God restores life to a better place. 
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Are you suggesting that you agree that this (claiming god spoke to you) should be a capital crime, specifically enforced by one's own parents?
What is the context?
Objective morality is universal and absolute and is the opposite of "situational ethics".
Nevertheless, God chose a people, Israel, who lived in an ANE culture. The Mosaic laws address that culture and situation ethics, and provide rules that stress the holiness of God and what is required of these people to share in a relationship with Him. Now, the Ten Commandments are universal and objective. Jesus mentions them in the NT. But these commandments, which are summarized in two, deal with our relationship with God as well as our relationship with other humans. The commands concerning humanity are recognized even in societies that are godless to an extent. Most societies, cultures, and individuals recognize it is not right to steal or lie or commit adultery or murder or covet something that is not yours, although the last item is slowly being eradicated in this "me too" relativistic generation. 


Why would you be concerned about context?
It seemed to be a statement out of the blue. 

What part of god's law says "kill the child if they strike or curse a parent (unless they have proper and appropriate context of course)"?
The Mosaic laws teach respect for others who are created in God's image and likeness. One of the Ten Commandments states to honour your mother and father that your days may be long on this earth. 

Context has nothing to do with god's law.

Although the 613 Mosaic laws touched on the Ten Commandments they were designed, IMO, for an ANE (Ancient Near East) people. Glenn Miller and others have brought out these details. Israel lived in a culture all around them where slavery was permissible, and as in Egypt it was harsh and unfair, yet God's laws as given to Moses (613 Mosaic Laws) deal more with the situation they found themselves in and it provided standards far above anything of the time as Glenn Miller pointed out.
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Look at the poor golfer he doesn't get that his morality is completely subjective. The moral dictates of the primitive, ignorant, superstitious savages who wrote his holy book are what he subjectively chooses to be his morality.
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Where in the Christian bible, does it specify which laws are "objective" and which laws are "subjective"?
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Where in the Christian bible, does it specify which laws are "objective" and which laws are "subjective"?
The Mosaic Law was relevant to OT Israel. The Ten Commandments are universal in that they are included in both Testaments. Jesus fulfilled both the Ten Commandments and the 613 Mosaic laws

For when the priesthood is changed, of necessity there takes place a change of law also.

For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel After those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws into their minds, And I will write them on their hearts. And I will be their God, And they shall be My people.

I would say that the Ten Commandments are universally known to most except for those whose consciousness is seared. 

Do you (personally) think it is wrong to murder? 

Do you (personally) think it is wrong to lie?

Do you (personally) think it is wrong to commit adultery on your wife?
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I would say that the Ten Commandments are universally known to most except for those whose consciousness is seared. 


Should read,

I would say that the Ten Commandments are universally known to most except for those whose conscience is seared. 


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I would say that the Ten Commandments are universally known to most except for those whose conscience is seared. 
Special pleading, No True Scotsman.

Your statement magically disqualifies anyone who might disagree with you.
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Where in the Christian bible, does it specify which laws are "objective" and which laws are "subjective"?

The Ten Commandments are universal in that they are included in both Testaments.
Being included in two places doesn't automatically make something "objective".

Where in the Christian bible, does it specify which laws are "objective" and which laws are "subjective"?

Ok, I'll accept your opinion that the "Ten Commandments" are "objective".

What is the "objective" (not context sensitive) punishment for coveting your neighbor's possessions?

What is the "objective" (not context sensitive) punishment for failing to "honor your parents"?
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I would say that the Ten Commandments are universally known to most except for those whose conscience is seared. 
Special pleading, No True Scotsman.

Your statement magically disqualifies anyone who might disagree with you.

I qualified it with questions you failed to answer:

Do you (personally) think it is wrong to murder? 

Do you (personally) think it is wrong to lie?

Do you (personally) think it is wrong to commit adultery on your wife?

Who do you know who thinks it is okay to murder, steal, lie, etc,?

Find me someone who is not psychologically maladjusted who thinks those things are okay. 

Do you think Kim Jong-un is normal?  

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I qualified it with questions you failed to answer:
Agreement =/= "objective"

Agreement = Intersubjective

Do you (personally) think it is wrong to murder? 
It depends on the context and the definition of "murder".  If you believe it is reasonable to think a person will kill you in your sleep, should you kill them first?

Do you (personally) think it is wrong to lie?
It depends on the context and the definition of "lie".  If the Gestapo asks if you are hiding any Jews in your house, should you be perfectly honest?

Do you (personally) think it is wrong to commit adultery on your wife?
It depends on the context and the definition of "adultery".  For example, according to "The Bible", marrying a divorcee is adultery.

Who do you know who thinks it is okay to murder, steal, lie, etc,?
Any number of people.  In-fact, according to "The Bible", Jacob is rewarded for deceiving (lying to) Isaac.  The Israelites are commanded to kill (murder) defenseless civilian women and children.  The Israelites are also commanded to steal the land of Canaan.
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Where in the Christian bible, does it specify which laws are "objective" and which laws are "subjective"?
I gave you an example in which the Mosaic laws were covenantal laws. The Ten Commandments were applied to both covenants.


The Ten Commandments are universal in that they are included in both Testaments.
Being included in two places doesn't automatically make something "objective".
God said throughout the OT He does not take lightly the shedding of innocent blood (i.e., murder).

So innocent blood will not be shed in the midst of your land which the Lord your God gives you as an inheritance, and bloodguiltiness be on you.

Proverbs 6:16-18 (NASB)
16 There are six things which the Lord hates,
Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him:
17 Haughty eyes, a lying tongue,
And hands that shed innocent blood,
18 A heart that devises wicked plans,
Feet that run rapidly to evil,


Where in the Christian bible, does it specify which laws are "objective" and which laws are "subjective"?
It does not say it in those words. 

Galatians 5:19-22 (NASB)
19 Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, 20 idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, 21 envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,

Sexual immorality - adultery, lust, etc. 
Idolatry.
Covetousness - envy.
Murder - outbursts of anger, Jesus likened murder to anger. Hate can lead to murder.

But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, ‘You good-for-nothing,’ shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.

Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer; and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.

But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

Outside are the dogs and the sorcerers and the immoral persons and the murderers and the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices lying.

2 Corinthians 12:19-21 (NASB)
19 All this time you have been thinking that we are defending ourselves to you. Actually, it is in the sight of God that we have been speaking in Christ; and all for your upbuilding, beloved. 20 For I am afraid that perhaps when I come I may find you to be not what I wish and may be found by you to be not what you wish; that perhaps there will be strife, jealousy, angry tempers, disputes, slanders, gossip, arrogance, disturbances; 21 I am afraid that when I come again my God may humiliate me before you, and I may mourn over many of those who have sinned in the past and not repented of the impurity, immorality and sensuality which they have practiced.

These traits are not compatible with God. 


Ok, I'll accept your opinion that the "Ten Commandments" are "objective".

What is the "objective" (not context sensitive) punishment for coveting your neighbor's possessions?
Envy and greed are not loving acts. We are separated from a pure, holy and loving God because of such acts. 

What is the "objective" (not context sensitive) punishment for failing to "honor your parents"?
If you can't do that for your parents who conceived you and brought you into the world why do you think you will be able to do that with God? Thus, it separates you from God. God is pure. No sin will be present in heaven. 

Jesus paid the penalty for sin as well as providing the believer His righteousness. The life we could not live He lived in our place. 

Romans 8:1-3 (NASB)
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Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh,

We died to the law in Christ. He fulfilled it on our behalf. He set us free from it by His righteousness. 

But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter.

For through the Law I died to the Law, so that I might live to God.

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I qualified it with questions you failed to answer:
Agreement =/= "objective"

Agreement = Intersubjective
I'm asking if you think those things are wrong? 

Not only this, have they been wrong in most cultures around the world and throughout the ages?

Do you (personally) think it is wrong to murder? 
It depends on the context and the definition of "murder".  If you believe it is reasonable to think a person will kill you in your sleep, should you kill them first?
Self-defence is permissible. 

Do you (personally) think it is wrong to lie?
It depends on the context and the definition of "lie".  If the Gestapo asks if you are hiding any Jews in your house, should you be perfectly honest?
No, it is the lesser of two evils, but it is still wrong to lie. It is a shame that this world makes it necessary at times. It just shows how immoral our world is. The mid-wifes protected Moses from Pharoah. They lied. 

Hatred stirs up strife, But love covers all transgressions.

Above all, keep fervent in your love for one another, because love covers a multitude of sins.

Love protects. 

If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Do you (personally) think it is wrong to commit adultery on your wife?
It depends on the context and the definition of "adultery".  For example, according to "The Bible", marrying a divorcee is adultery.
Matthew 19:9 (NASB)
And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

Matthew 5:32 (NASB)
32 but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the reason of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

Romans 7:2 (NASB)
For the married woman is bound by law to her husband while he is living; but if her husband dies, she is released from the law concerning the husband.

1 Corinthians 7:39 (NASB)
39 A wife is bound as long as her husband lives; but if her husband is dead, she is free to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord.

Jeremiah 3:8 (NASB)
And I saw that for all the adulteries of faithless Israel, I had sent her away and given her a writ of divorce, yet her treacherous sister Judah did not fear; but she went and was a harlot also.

God was faithful to Israel but Israel was faithless to Him, thus He issued her a letter of divorce, just as He issued Judah a letter of divorce in AD 70 and marriage a new bride. 

Who do you know who thinks it is okay to murder, steal, lie, etc,?
Any number of people.  In-fact, according to "The Bible", Jacob is rewarded for deceiving (lying to) Isaac.
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  The Israelites are commanded to kill (murder) defenseless civilian women and children.
I'm not sure what passage you are referring to but generally speaking, these women and children would pollute the people with their idol worship and immoral practices if they remained.

  The Israelites are also commanded to steal the land of Canaan.
The land belonged to God. He gave it to Israel and brought judgment on the immoral inhabitants of the land. 
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Do you think we should kill everyone who lies?

Do you think we should kill everyone who dishonors their parents?

I'm willing to accept you at your word that these Ten Commandments are "objective morality".

What's the practical up-shot?
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Do you think we should kill everyone who lies?
No, that would eliminate most of humanity. We should recognize that lying, generally speaking, not only hurt others but it hurts ourselves. We should understand that it is something that God will take into account when we come before Him. 

Do you think we should kill everyone who dishonors their parents?
No, I think we should realize that we should honour godly parents, that our parents should be honours and respected being the elder and wiser who have our best interests at heart.

Understand that the Ten Commandments point us to what we should do and are responsible before God to do. 

The law condemns us if we fail to meet its righteous requirements.

Galatians 3:24 (NASB)
24 Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith.

What the Ten Commandments do is they make us aware of our predicament we face in that we do not meet God's righteous standard. It also points us towards Jesus Christ who meets all righteousness on behalf of those who believe. 

I'm willing to accept you at your word that these Ten Commandments are "objective morality".

What's the practical up-shot?

What Jesus Christ has done for us in meeting God's righteousness.
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What the Ten Commandments do is they make us aware of our predicament we face in that we do not meet God's righteous standard. It also points us towards Jesus Christ who meets all righteousness on behalf of those who believe. 
How do the Ten Commandments inform THE LAW?

What are the ("objective" not-context-sensitive) prescribed penalties for violation of each of the Ten Commandments?
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What the Ten Commandments do is they make us aware of our predicament we face in that we do not meet God's righteous standard. It also points us towards Jesus Christ who meets all righteousness on behalf of those who believe. 
How do the Ten Commandments inform THE LAW?
Morally just laws are based on them in regards to humanity. Do not murder (kill) is something most societies have adopted into law. Do not steal is the same. Liable, slander, malicious gossip, deception, all fall under not lying, which is another of the ten.

Jesus summed the ten up in two, love God and love your neighbour. Doing things that are not loving goes against these commandments which form the basis for all other righteous commands. Laws must be just and righteous. They must look out for the best interests of others.  

What are the ("objective" not-context-sensitive) prescribed penalties for violation of each of the Ten Commandments?
The ultimate penalty is separation from a loving God for eternity. Remember, it is God who holds each one of us responsible for failing to live righteously.

For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Sin loses our standing with God. It destroys our fellowship or relationship with Him. God reveals there is a penalty He will extract for wrongful actions either in us or in His Son. The Son willingly paid the penalty for those who will believe. The rest stand before God on their own merit. So how good is your merit? Have you ever lied? Have you ever been angry enough to kill someone? Have you ever stolen anything? Have you coveted something that does not belong to you? Have you ever had lustful and adulterous thoughts to someone who was not your wife? Have you ever dishonoured your parents? Have you failed to give God what He is worthy of? 

As you can see, your case becomes very flimsy against such standards. You are guilty. You have willingly and willfully done these things.

Thus, you need to be rescued from your guilt and the penalty it has incurred. God is perfectly just in separating you from His presence since you will not come into it in the prescribed manner. He would not be just, and therefore not good, to ignore the wrongful actions.

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What are the ("objective" not-context-sensitive) prescribed penalties for violation of each of the Ten Commandments?
The ultimate penalty is separation from a loving God for eternity. Remember, it is God who holds each one of us responsible for failing to live righteously.
(1) So, in your view, the Ten Commandments is the only law we need? (Y/N)

(2) And the only enforcement mechanism required is "separation from a loving god"? (Y/N)

(3) Can we just fire all police officers and tell safety regulators they can retire? (Y/N)

This version of "objective-morality" doesn't seem even slightly practical.
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Jesus summed the ten up in two, love God and love your neighbour. Doing things that are not loving goes against these commandments which form the basis for all other righteous commands. Laws must be just and righteous. They must look out for the best interests of others.  
Exodus 32:27

And he said unto them, Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.
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What are the ("objective" not-context-sensitive) prescribed penalties for violation of each of the Ten Commandments?
The ultimate penalty is separation from a loving God for eternity. Remember, it is God who holds each one of us responsible for failing to live righteously.
(1) So, in your view, the Ten Commandments is the only law we need? (Y/N)
No, what I am suggesting is that the Ten Commandments are the basis for just laws. The principles behind just laws stem from them. 

(2) And the only enforcement mechanism required is "separation from a loving god"? (Y/N)
No. That is the long term result. All kinds of situations in your life either draw you to God or away from Him. Some of those are pleasant and some are painful. My father's death in 1979 started me on a quest for meaning. The short term results are that you hear His word and what you do with it is between you and God. The short term result is that you reason about life and you either turn to God for answers or you turn to your own devices and human reasoning alone.  

(3) Can we just fire all police officers and tell safety regulators they can retire? (Y/N)
No, they are there for a purpose. The world is full of many evils because people choose their ways instead of the way of God. Hence, we need restraints to lessen evil. We constantly see that we are incapable of living a completely just and good life outside of Jesus Christ. That is why the Good News is such an awesome realization. He became the substitute for those who truly put there trust and faith in Him. The OT sacrifice had to be offered time after time, year after year, to keep the covenant believers standing with God in good standing. Jesus' sacrifice and substitution was a one-time offering. That is all that was needed. Animal sacrifices pointed towards this greater sacrifice and were a substitute for the person and nation. The laying on of hands by the priest signified they identified with the sacrifice as should have been the sinner. 

Hebrews 9 explains the concepts I am speaking of further,

but into the second, only the high priest enters once a year, not without taking blood, which he offers for himself and for the sins of the people committed in ignorance. The Holy Spirit is signifying this, that the way into the holy place has not yet been disclosed while the outer tabernacle is still standing, which is a symbol for the present time. Accordingly both gifts and sacrifices are offered which cannot make the worshiper perfect in conscience, 10 since they relate only to food and drink and various washings, regulations for the body imposed until a time of reformation.

Notice the reference to the outer tabernacle. It represented the OT order of worship or economy. Until that was taken away, removed, it was binding. When did that happen? It happened in AD 70. The Romans destroyed the Second Temple in AD 70. 

Remember, the blood represented life. Taking the blood meant death. The animal death should have been the death of the guilty party but God allowed an animal sacrifice (which was costly) as a covering until God Himself provided the ultimate sacrifice that would always meet the satisfaction of God. That animal was a provision God gave instead of the human life that sinned.  That satisfaction would be a man since Adam brought sin into the world by his disobedience and separated humanity from that close relationship with God because of sin. The Son becomes a human being to accomplish what no other human could. A man must live a completely righteous life to put humanity back into the right relationship with God. Not only this, the man must pay the penalty for sin, which is death (spiritual separation from God), to satisfy God's justice. Sin must be met with. 

He entered through the greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this creation; 12 and not through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood, He entered the holy place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. 13 For if the blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkling those who have been defiled sanctify for the cleansing of the flesh, 14 how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without blemish to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

15 For this reason He is the mediator of a new covenant, so that, since a death has taken place for the redemption of the transgressions that were committed under the first covenant, those who have been called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.

The New Covenant between man and God was made not by animal sacrifices to ratify it but by the blood of Jesus Christ! 

16 For where a covenant is, there must of necessity be the death of the one who made it. 17 For a covenant is valid only when men are dead, for it is never in force while the one who made it lives. 18 Therefore even the first covenant was not inaugurated without blood.

The same principle is seen with a will. The will is only valid once the person who made it is dead. 

24 For Christ did not enter a holy place made with hands, a mere copy of the true one, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us; 25 nor was it that He would offer Himself often, as the high priest enters the holy place year by year with blood that is not his own. 26 Otherwise, He would have needed to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now once at the consummation of the ages He has been manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself. 27 And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment, 28 so Christ also, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time for salvation without reference to sin, to those who eagerly await Him.

He appeared in AD 70 for those eagerly awaiting Him to ratify the New Covenant and show those who doubted that He was who He said He was and that He had met God's righteous standards. 

Matthew 26:59-64
59 Now the chief priests and the whole Council kept trying to obtain false testimony against Jesus, so that they might put Him to death. 60 They did not find any, even though many false witnesses came forward. But later on two came forward, 61 and said, “This man stated, ‘I am able to destroy the temple of God and to rebuild it in three days.’” 62 The high priest stood up and said to Him, “Do You not answer? What is it that these men are testifying against You?” 63 But Jesus kept silent. And the high priest said to Him, “I adjure You by the living God, that You tell us whether You are the Christ, the Son of God.” 64 Jesus *said to him, “You have said it yourself; nevertheless I tell you, hereafter you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.”

The High Priest would understand that Jesus was who He claimed to be because Jesus would come in judgment forty years later (one generation) and they would understand Jesus was at His Father's side. If you understand the references to coming on clouds you would understand this is in reference to judgment. That judgment came in AD 70 and they would see, they would understand, what He said was true. 

This version of "objective-morality" doesn't seem even slightly practical.
It gives the basis for morality. It necessarily comes from the unchanging, ultimate, absolute, objective, omniscient, eternal best - God. It presents principles that are witnessed in human laws throughout time. We understand that it is wrong to murder, steal, lie, and so on. That is implanted in most human minds (excepting those minds that are so corrupt and seared by self-deception) yet without God, there is nothing to compare good with since our minds and thinking are relative and subjective. Thus, we have the necessary standard only grant that God exists. 
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Jesus summed the ten up in two, love God and love your neighbour. Doing things that are not loving goes against these commandments which form the basis for all other righteous commands. Laws must be just and righteous. They must look out for the best interests of others.  
Exodus 32:27

And he said unto them, Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.
What is the context? No sooner had Moses gone up the mountain to receive the Ten Commandments than the Israelites departed from God in constructing for themselves a golden calf - false gods. No sooner had they agreed to be in covenant with God (Exodus 24:3, 7) than were they breaking their agreement and being unfaithful. Thus, God was perfectly justified in punishing them. He punished the guilty parties. 

God was teaching His people 1) He is holy, 2) they agreed to covenant with Him, 3) they were being unfaithful to that covenant, 4) He was going to teach them of His holiness so they would remember in the future, 5) it pointed to a righteous man mediating between the nation or covenant believers and God, yet even Moses was angry when he saw what had happened and how they had dishonoured God as demonstrated by him throwing the Ten Commandments to the ground and breaking them. Even so, Moses spoke to God, reminding Him of His promise, and asked for His mercy. This did not catch God unaware since God knows everything, but it demonstrates to us what the prayers of a righteous person can do. Those prayers can make a difference in the life of another. The punishment could have been a lot worse without Moses' intercession.  

They have quickly turned aside from the way which I commanded them. They have made for themselves a molten calf, and have worshiped it and have sacrificed to it and said, ‘This is your god, O Israel, who brought you up from the land of Egypt!’” The Lord said to Moses, “I have seen this people, and behold, they are an obstinate people. 10 Now then let Me alone, that My anger may burn against them and that I may destroy them; and I will make of you a great nation.”
Moses’ Entreaty
11 Then Moses entreated the Lord his God, and said, “O Lord, why does Your anger burn against Your people whom You have brought out from the land of Egypt with great power and with a mighty hand? 12 Why should the Egyptians speak, saying, ‘With evil intent He brought them out to kill them in the mountains and to destroy them from the face of the earth’? Turn from Your burning anger and change Your mind about doing harm to Your people. 13 Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, Your servants to whom You swore by Yourself, and said to them, ‘I will multiply your descendants as the stars of the heavens, and all this land of which I have spoken I will give to your descendants, and they shall inherit it forever.’” 14 So the Lord changed His mind about the harm which He said He would do to His people.

Moses’ Anger
19 It came about, as soon as Moses came near the camp, that he saw the calf and the dancing; and Moses’ anger burned, and he threw the tablets from his hands and shattered them at the foot of the mountain. 20 He took the calf which they had made and burned it with fire, and ground it to powder, and scattered it over the surface of the water and made the sons of Israel drink it.
21 Then Moses said to Aaron, “What did this people do to you, that you have brought such great sin upon them?”

 26 then Moses stood in the gate of the camp, and said, “Whoever is for the Lord, come to me!” And all the sons of Levi gathered together to him. 27 He said to them, “Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel, ‘Every man of you put his sword upon his thigh, and go back and forth from gate to gate in the camp, and kill every man his brother, and every man his friend, and every man his neighbor.’”

Notice that the people were given a choice. Some chose wisely. 

There is a constant illustration of choosing between life and death in the Bible. It symbolizes or is a spiritual teaching of the life that is in Jesus Christ and the death outside of Christ Jesus.  


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(1) So, in your view, the Ten Commandments is the only law we need? (Y/N)
No, what I am suggesting is that the Ten Commandments are the basis for just laws. The principles behind just laws stem from them. 
What, in your opinion, are some real-world examples of "just laws" that are "based on" the Ten Commandments?
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(2) And the only enforcement mechanism required is "separation from a loving god"? (Y/N)
No. That is the long term result. 
What's the right-and-proper, "short term" enforceable, real-world penalty for violating each of the Ten Commandments?
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(3) Can we just fire all police officers and tell safety regulators they can retire? (Y/N)
No, they are there for a purpose.
Where in "The Bible" is this explained?