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@Greyparrot
It's not dumb because he's not going to do it, so I just want to have it on record he's actually unwilling to put his money where his mouth is.
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@A-R-O-S-E
You're a smart one.
I think drafter would lose. He has already been at L2 but Between that and me still wanting to find another scum it doesn't seem beneficial
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@drafterman
"put his money where his mouth is"
Was thinking that exactly. But he not going to do it.
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@Wylted
AROSE is right that I think Wylted is scum and this is a good way to get him lynched. If AROSE hides behind me and survives, then he is definitely not going to do it after that.
I didn't mean to tag Wylted in that last post Oh well.
So I'm seeing some contention over the following from Mharman which Oro and I verified.
ATTENTION: This is a counter claim. Drafterman’s bulletproof claim is BS. Why? Because I am Mantis,, a town 50/50 role-blocker. Last night I roleblocked Drafterman, stopping the NK.
Let's break it down, a lie detector can't say be used on walls of text or our role list to see which are false (if any, I am not trying to open that can of worms). I believe if it was used on the list, Speedrace would at best just check the person who posted it and their role, with the rest being just opinion.
On the lie detected message, there are two statement of opinions which I think can't be tested (that someone else's claim is BS, and that the NK was stopped by said described actions). So we are left with a truthful or not to the clear statement: "...I [Mharman] am Mantis,, a town 50/50 role-blocker. Last night I roleblocked Drafterman..." which was the truth.
Thus I reported: "So he’s telling the truth, at least so far as can be determined. I used a power. I do not know if I wholly trust the logic, but he’s truthful."
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@Barney
I'm interested in why you voted me, then, if you understood the accusatory parts of his claim to be opinion not validate be the Lie Detector.
Unvote
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@drafterman
Gladiate me.
are you tho?
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@oromagi
Am I what?
Unofficial Vote Count
Drafter: Warren, Wylted, Water
Warren: Drafter
Ragnar: Water
Mharman: Supa
Pie: Oro
Wylted: Grey
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@Speedrace
speed can we get vtl list and time?
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@drafterman
gladiate you
READS
TOWN
8. oromagi Tony Stark(IRON MAN) NP action (verified)
3. Ragnar Clint Barton (HAWKEYE) ODD VIGILANTE
6. Mharman mantis? (MANTIS) 50% ROLEBLOCKER
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11. A-R-O-S-E no name! (WASP) WEAK HIDER
9. drafterman no name! (HULK) BULLETPROOF
5. WaterPhoenix Heimdall (HEIMDALL) WATCHER
10. SupaDudz Nick Fury PARANOID GUN OWNER
7. warren42 Scarlet Witch ORACLE (special)
At this point, I can be talked into lynching anybody below Mharman
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@drafterman
I just confirmed my double vote will not conclude it, so I fee safe letting someone experienced decide the outcome (or to tell me to switch where I’m voting)I'm interested in why you voted me, then, if you understood the accusatory parts of his claim to be opinion not validate be the Lie Detector.
You are very suspicious, and I outright confirmed with Speedrace that if voting for you it would not be the deciding vote (unlike if I voted for Mharman). Once Greyparrot told me to unvote, I did precisely that without hesitation.
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(following list is unchanged and unrelated to the above message, I just like having it up top on these pages)
READS
TOWN
8. oromagi Tony Stark(IRON MAN) NP action (verified)
3. Ragnar Clint Barton (HAWKEYE) ODD VIGILANTE
6. Mharman mantis? (MANTIS) 50% ROLEBLOCKER
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11. A-R-O-S-E no name! (WASP) WEAK HIDER
9. drafterman no name! (HULK) BULLETPROOF
5. WaterPhoenix Heimdall (HEIMDALL) WATCHER
10. SupaDudz Nick Fury PARANOID GUN OWNER
7. warren42 Scarlet Witch ORACLE (special)
I would like to discuss WaterP's claim that he watched Ragnar visit AROSE when AROSE was hiding behind GreyParrot.
Does town agree that there must be a lie in here somewhere?
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@Wylted
@drafterman
@Barney
@warren42
@WaterPhoenix
Anyone who still has a vote on drafterman as we have already decided to test his claim with AROSE is suspect of being SCUM atm.
We should note that even though I was asking AROSE and then Warren to visit SupaDudz in the next DP2 (and we got to L-1 once) Supa actually came on, stated that he was too tired to claim and went away. When he came back this morning he offered a classic scum claim.
I suppose it is possible that Supa is that heedless of the fortunes of his fellow townies. I've seen egregious acts of carelessness from Dudz before.
Either way, his play is profoundly anti-town.
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@Greyparrot
Stop wasting time. We can lynch drafter and use her to find last scum
I have no objection to the Arose test of Drafter but I'd point out that Ragnar's VIG can also test Drafter DP3, if we'd like to test somebody scummier tonight.
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@Wylted
so untown
UNVOTE
VTL Wylted
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@oromagi
What is wrong with finding ding the third scum and lynching the 2nd scum today? Why are you postponing lynching drafter, is he your scum mate?. Also what do you think will happen now that he knows what arose will do, who do you think he will NK?
Tests are retarded. Let's just kill scum every single DP
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@Greyparrot
@oromagi
@WaterPhoenix
@A-R-O-S-E
Does town agree that there must be a lie in here somewhere?
I don't know the roles well yet, but trying to break this down...
WATER watching: If lying, how would he know I visited?
RAGNAR visiting: If lying about visiting, why?
AROSE hiding: If lying about hiding, how did he survive my visit?
GREY innocent: If lying about not doing anything.... Actually I don't know how this ties in, other than him being innocent if hid behind, due to hiders dying if hiding behind mafia.
Vote Count
Drafter: Warren, Wylted, Water
Warren: Drafter
Ragnar: Water
Mharman: Supa
Wylted: Grey, Oro
About 29 hours left
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@Wylted
I have no big reason to suspect drafter and I have a couple of ways to test his claim and my side (town) is ahead so I have time to test.
If you were town and as convinced drafter was scum as you'd say- you would use your one and only power designed for just such a situation.
The longer you delay your gladiator, the more evident your falsehood becomes.
Wylted just scum read oro, whose CC is what allowed us to lynch scum DP1.
Unvote. VTL Wylted.
Oro is town from the CC.
Mhraman is town from the lie detector.
Grey is town because I seriously hope that Mod wouldn't give mafia a Governor AND a vote giver.
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@Barney
WATER watching: If lying, how would he know I visited?RAGNAR visiting: If lying about visiting, why?AROSE hiding: If lying about hiding, how did he survive my visit?GREY innocent: If lying about not doing anything.... Actually I don't know how this ties in, other than him being innocent if hid behind, due to hiders dying if hiding behind mafia.
I agree with this reasoning. Hence the wording. Is there some way this can all be true?