Buddas Beginner Series 1.2 DP2

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@David
On MU a game like this would be classified as bastard.
:( wanna end the game move onto the next? 
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@1harderthanyouthink
What are your reads on everyone?
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Btw, we're all going to have a long talk about VTNL on DP1s.
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@RationalMadman
Why cop Virt?
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Helloo anyone here
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Damn American Timezones
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Helloo anyone here

yo
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unvote
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@Smithereens
Thoughts on RM's role hunting/focusing DP1?
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Dp1 RM reads town to me.
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I mentioned it here cuz I didn't get the chance to speak Dp1, but the mod replied to his questions and a bit more which tells me there were things he asked in his own pm that got clarified. Neon sign indicating genuine questions.


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@Smithereens
Eh, I kinda agree now that I reread it. 

I especially like this

This game he is already disputing a scumread of me on another player who even if it was his partner his scum meta means he'd just roll with. Him saying this makes me TR him:

Ehhhhh. I doubt that was a scum move from him.
Earth is town. GP is TP or mafia imo.
scum hunting right there. 
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@Greyparrot
Didn't you town read anyone last DP?

Why the random bodyguard?
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@David
Why VTL Harder 1st post in DP1?
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I'll tell you that I suspect RM is actually mafia but don't vote him cuz we'll lose. Virt is likely a jester so we can't lynch him either.

We're literally fucked.
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@Smithereens
Didn't Budda do a game before where there were 3 same roles? 
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He did? If so I would definitely re-evaluate my read on RM, especially now that I notice the last cop that died was paranoid. He could be a naive cop.

Issue currently is that he has a inno on Virt, who isn't inno. 
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@RationalMadman
Are you town reading Virtuoso based on your result?

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@Smithereens
I'd rather vote harder. 

destroying a town read. scum tell

TP paranoia, scum tell

Plus the fact that he's trying to keep Virt alive and not scum hunting at all. 

TP paranoia and defending Virt

I don't think a Harder-RM is scum team is a possibility due to their interaction, but a Virt-harder is. 



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Potential outcomes of the game assuming Jester:

Dp2:

4T v 1M v 1J

Lynch mafia: Jester wins
Lynch jester: Jester wins
Mislynch: game continues

Dp3:

2T v 1M v 1J

Again, cannot lynch scum because Jester will win.
Mislynch: mafia shoots Jester, Mafia wins.
No lynch: game continues

Dp4:

1T v 1M v 1J

If T is lynched: Jester wins
If M is lynched: Jester wins
If J is lynched: Jester wins
If No lynch: Mafia shoots J, mafia wins

assuming Jester and mafia, then there are no possible ways for town to win this game.









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@Smithereens
I'm not sure if he was the mod but I do remember playing a game like that. All the cops were flavored, lol.

Anyway, this is a weird fucking read

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@Smithereens
There's no jester. Just 2 mafia. 
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Anyway, this is a weird fucking read

Yes it is weird, because Virt is going out of his way to get lynched. He notices RM investigates him as inno and the first thing he does is claim commuter. It's a rather transparent attempt to get lynched.
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There's no jester. Just 2 mafia.
The smallest number of townies you need to have 2 mafia is 7. There should be 1 mafia only if Budda is following balance conventions. A TP however is something I would expect, and I legit fear that Virt is a real Jester. 

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@Smithereens
Or could be a scum fuck up? Since I scum read harder, his interaction with him is makes more sense as mafia buddies. 

I'll honestly hate this game if there is a jester. 
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@Smithereens
Thoughts on 1harder then, do you think he's scum? 
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lemme re-read over a nice lunch. I just noticed that Virt claimed an active commuter when I assumed it was passive. How stupid of me lol. brb
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wait rescind that, he changed his claim after the fact ughhh 
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@Smithereens
Can we agree that scum is in this pile at least

Virt
1harder
RM


Top to bottom with the top being the scummiest.

And I'm gonna eat lunch too. 
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yeah, it was harder who brought up jester and threw me into a world of paranoia. His first post was to say "I don't think RM is telling the truth." and then goes and doesn't vote anyone, but doubts Greyparrot's obvs town claim. Muddying the waters is what's going on here imo.

For aforementioned reasons though I'm not going to lynch mafia until Virt gets back so I can ask him some questions.