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And what about RM's inno result? He would have to either be naive or insane.
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That is, if Virt were scum or TP.

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What if he's jester?
He spent a lot of posts painting himself as town. That's not exactly how I would play jester if I got that role.
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don't believe RM is telling the truth
There should only be one scum in this game. If it's not Virt it'll be RM, but I think it's Virt. 

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@Greyparrot
He could have deliberately messed up the role claim.
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And what about RM's inno result? He would have to either be naive or insane.
I don't really think his role should be taken too seriously. I've always been a believer in behaviour analysis over results. But a result here shouldn't be possible. RM should have failed so..

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And he didn't. And he got an innocent result. And Virtuoso then claimed hated, which is possible for town or mafia.
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Yeah I get that, but why go through all the gymnastics with the pro town posts? If I had jester, I would just slip up and then mount a really heated fluff defense, which btw...Virt hasn't done yet.
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Remember, there is a 'hated' flavouring. Do not risk lynching anyone the 4 can be 3

hated is a role in this game, but why do you sound so certain?
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He is either hated or commuter, not both. 
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He is either hated or commuter, not both. 
Any ideas on why Harder is all-in for defending Virt?

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Oh I missed the point where he swtiched his claim. Yeah that could def be jester 

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@Smithereens
So you would believe Budda would make a one person scum team of a hated role?
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@Smithereens
Fine UNVOTE..though I really don't think it's a jester play. Why go through all the pro town posturing at the start of the day?
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@Greyparrot
If jester is in the conversation, of course he isn't doing it. He was waiting for someone to "lynch" him at 3 votes so he could actually hammer himself at 4.
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Any ideas on why Harder is all-in for defending Virt?

I don't think this is really what he's doing. I missed a post that Harder did read and the suspicion that he's a jester is imo on the table. There's probably one mafia and one TP, cuz that's how you'd go about balancing this game. If Virt is a TP then chances are he's a commuter. In retrospect I don't think someone like Virt would blunder so badly as to claim commuter after getting an inno from a cop.

That being said the paranoid cop is already dead so how RM got an inno on a TP is anyone's guess. Perhaps RM is the scum and Virt is the TP.
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So you would believe Budda would make a one person scum team of a hated role?
good question. I really don't know. There could be a mafia team of two with one hated but that would be really scum sided, there could be one mafia, which would be slightly town sided, or there could be one mafia and one TP, which is only slightly scum sided.

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If virt is a TP then chances are he's a jester* correction.
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Yeah the more I think about this to myself the less I'm able to believe that Virt is a mafia who made the blunder of the century. Imo the jester call is a good one. Let's lynch the scum and win the game.

VTL RM

we should see something interesting here, cuz RM is most likely going to be the last scum, and Virt if he's a TP will lose if the mafia is lynched. Imo Virt will come to RM's defense out of nowhere and confirm the 1 mafia 1 TP theory. 
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Vote Count

1Harder(1/3)- Rational

Rational (1/3) - Smithers

Smithereens (1/3) - Virtuoso

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@Smithereens
Yeah the more I think about this to myself the less I'm able to believe that Virt is a mafia who made the blunder of the century. Imo the jester call is a good one. Let's lynch the scum and win the game.

VTL RM

we should see something interesting here, cuz RM is most likely going to be the last scum, and Virt if he's a TP will lose if the mafia is lynched. Imo Virt will come to RM's defense out of nowhere and confirm the 1 mafia 1 TP theory. 

This makes no logical sense. You had a suspicion on RM predicated on Virt not being a jester. That suspicion should logically be removed, yet you voted for RM. Seems like a slip on your part.

VTL SMITHEREENS
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Corrected Vote Count

Smithereens (2/4) - Virtuoso, Greyparrot

1Harder (1/4) - Rational

Rational (1/4) - Smithereens

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I also updated it, but the last one had it set as (x/3) when it should have been (X/4). 

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That thought process assumed one of them were town and the other is a liar. Im wrong on that cuz a tp + mafia makes more sense. The logical conclusion is that RM is the other scum cuz he just got an inno on a player who fmpov is not inno but tp. It all makes sense come join me. 
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We have an extra lynch to use btw cuz the mafia is obliged to shoot the tp if we don't lynch them in order to win, so feel to use that lynch on me if I get this wrong. But it all fits too well to be coincidence. Virt is a jester, RM is a mafia who thought virt was town and fake claimed inno on him not knowing he isnt inno. This is legit. 
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We have an extra lynch to use btw cuz the mafia is obliged to shoot the tp if we don't lynch them in order to win, so feel to use that lynch on me if I get this wrong. But it all fits too well to be coincidence. Virt is a jester, RM is a mafia who thought virt was town and fake claimed inno on him not knowing he isn't inno. This is legit. 

I don't buy this. RM's behavior screamed about the discrepancy. If he was scum, it would be more likely he would suggest other leads and misdirect, not focus hard on virt. This makes you seem even more scummier in my eyes.
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Why? A commuter claim would leave rm with no other option. My entire beef is that RM has an inno on a guilty player,  cuz virt is 100% a scum. So who is the other mafia? Probably the "cop" who said the tp was inno. 
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I'm want to hear from XLAV, but I think Smithers might be scum trying to get town to believe the scum team is one person, when it is two. Virtuoso defending RM would not confirm it being one person, as a TP would not know.
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I think tp + mafia
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I'm want to hear from XLAV, but I think Smithers might be scum trying to get town to believe the scum team is one person, when it is two. Virtuoso defending RM would not confirm it being one person, as a TP would know
Who do you think the other scum is?
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Oh this game is bastard, town cannot win. Lynch mafia and jester wins. Mafia won't shoot him until lylo, where town has already lost majority. Rip lol.