SVTFOE Mafia DP2

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Watch Mharman and Pie are the scum 😑😑
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Watch Mharman and Pie are the scum 😑😑

Why would you think I'm scum? If I were scum, I would've hammered Wylted by now.
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Guys get your votes off of Wylted. No scum is going to claim miller.
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God, speedrace this is exactly what happened last dp. Everyone was suspicious of each other and couldn't settle on a lynch. If oro is scum he's playing on town's side right now VTLing the inactives, and he's probably not. Warren was against oro and so oro killed him as scum???? That seems way too conspicuous, it's likely mafia trying to get us to fight amongst ourselves. If we lynch Wylted we get rid of an inactive player, see if he was scum, and see who mafia killed giving us more reads. 
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wait not inactive part he's back but that miller claim was weird I'm still gonna try to lynch him. 
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Wait, how many scum can be in this game?
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This is a 9 player game, so there should be 2 scum if it is balanced correctly.

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Pie is also probably town. If he were scum he would've hammered Wylted by now.
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Speedrace is probably town since he hasn't hammered Wylted.
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shite im fuqing stupid ok if there's two scum then that must mean oro's scum sorry for being stoopid

UNVOTE VTL ORO
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Forget my last post ever happened
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Why are you trying so hard to defend Wylted, an inactive player?

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VTL ORO
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Inactivity isn't an indicator of affiliation.
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I assume one vote is from a cop who investigated me due to my absence. Don't tell me who, though. This means that we can't trust any innocent results either until the godfather is dead
It's not just inactivity.
Wylted also claimed miller, which would be extremely convenient in the case of the cop coming out with a guilty verdict. 
There's also Wylted's unfounded assumption that cop investigated him, which could be a potential scumslip.
Also, Wylted is usually a lot more proactive as town, and wouldn't say stuff like "we can't trust cop".

This seems suspicious, but I'll look into it deeper.

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@Mharman
Why would you think I'm scum? If I were scum, I would've hammered Wylted by now.
I didn't think you were lol
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Unfounded assumption that a cop investigated him? The dude has no idea why we're voting for him, what else would he think we were about to Lynch him for?
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Unfounded assumption that a cop investigated him? The dude has no idea why we're voting for him, what else would he think we were about to Lynch him for?
He has a clear idea of why he was about to get lynched, for being inactive.  

Also, there's no way of knowing whether or not you've actually been investigated (unless cop states it). Wylted, without being pressured by anyone, literally stepped forth and said something along the lines of "IF I APPEAR GUILTY BY COP INVESTIGATION, IT'S BECAUSE I'M MILLER, JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW. ALSO, YOU SHOULDN'T TRUST COP AT ALL."

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He has a clear idea of why he was about to get lynched, for being inactive.  
No he doesn't, he said he didn't read the DP dude

Also, there's no way of knowing whether or not you've actually been investigated (unless cop states it). Wylted, without being pressured by anyone, literally stepped forth and said something along the lines of "IF I APPEAR GUILTY BY COP INVESTIGATION, IT'S BECAUSE I'M MILLER, JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW. ALSO, YOU SHOULDN'T TRUST COP AT ALL."
He never said he knew that someone investigated him dude, he assumed that was the reason people were voting for him

Are you even reading the messages?
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No he doesn't, he said he didn't read the DP dude
What other possible reasons would town lynch an inactive for, other than for being inactive?

He never said he knew that someone investigated him dude, he assumed that was the reason people were voting for him
He's acting as if he has a guilty verdict on him. Also, he said he knew that there was a godfather in the game. Correct me if I'm wrong, but having a miller and godfather in a 9-man game is very unlikely.
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What other possible reasons would town lynch an inactive for, other than for being inactive?
He's not an inactive, he was literally just gone, you only vote for inactives to encourage them to be active

He's acting as if he has a guilty verdict on him. Also, he said he knew that there was a godfather in the game. Correct me if I'm wrong, but having a miller and godfather in a 9-man game is very unlikely.
Three people voted for him out of nowhere, what else is he supposed to think?

And he assumes there's a godfather, there usually is when you have a cop
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He's not an inactive, he was literally just gone
Gone = Inactive. Also, if he knew he was going to be gone for 5 days he could've told Supa that he needed a replacement.

you only vote for inactives to encourage them to be active
No... in this case lynching Wylted DP1 would have provided additional information about the other players.

Three people voted for him out of nowhere, what else is he supposed to think?
The only way for your logic to work is if there was an N0 Cop Investigation. But at that point, cop would have no idea that Wylted would be inactive for DP1. Also, I don't think there has ever been a DART mafia with an N0 Cop Investigation.

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Forgot to tag you

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(1/5) Wylted [oro]
(3/5) oromagi [Speed, Water, Club]

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I am Kelly Hairperson  VANILLA because I am confusingly wild but shy.  town.
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Okay lol. I claimed miller to prevent a cop from identifying himself if he felt he needed to, to get a lynch. 3 people voted without saying much which is a common tactic among cops so if they die it is easy to see their results looking back. Anyone want to give me the case on ORo since I can't catch up at the moment. His immediate claim makes me like him and without having the advantage of reading DP1, I am getting strong scum vibes from press
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I don't know if there is a godfather. Clearly any guilty on somebody who is not me should be trusted. But I am advising g caution on any innocent results
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Also sorry for fucking up that last game by disappearing. Inexcusable on my part.
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I was at L1 at the end of dp1 and there is clearly a cop in the game. So assuming I was investigated is common sense also. ImO
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The people town reading me are silly but I but that all of them are town. The most suspect person DP1 comes out DP2 claiming miller. That should be almost an instant lynch.